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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:18 PM

More excellent detail work.

There was a photo, Iowa IIRC, where they had painted the top of the crane controls in Deck Blue--something not seen in photos of any other Iowa-class.

Which is probably like how the decks in the Mk 51 Director  platforms, ought, by regulation, be Deck Blue, but photos are few and far between.

Sigh, once again, those meanies in the past were more focused on the big, mighty warship, than on the minute details we modelers would obcess over 75 years' later.

Stern of Missourin is pretty busy with stuff, so the details are likely going to just blend in:

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Sunday, September 19, 2021 1:13 PM

If I may, maybe this will help.

"Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:31 PM

CapnMac82
More excellent detail work.

Ditto

Looking good Steve. You are moving along very nicely.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:30 PM

thanks guys for the photos , really interesting stuff . but I don't know if it is spuring me on or detering me , gee there's a lot of stuff there . Big Smile

hooyah , is that photo from 1945 , the reason I ask , is those two extra plane launches , going coast to coast on the deck , I haven't seen them before !!

cheers steve , I think I'm finally done with all the hassels .

also got the paravanes together

 

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Posted by Model Monkey on Sunday, September 19, 2021 5:13 PM

Nice work, Steve!

Those devices on the deck are temporary structures used to check a ship's balance and stability.  Various weights are placed on them and moved about as part of the checks.   If you look closely at their ends, you'll see weight stacks on carriages on the tracks.  These checks were performed at various times and the equipment used to perform the checks is often seen in shipyard photos taken upon the completion of modifications (especially if the ship's topside got heavier as a result of those modifications).

Kudos to HooYah and CapnMac82 for posting good photos.

Very much enjoying your work!

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, September 20, 2021 3:03 AM

thankyou MM , I was dreading the scratch build , the help I am getting from the members has been great .

started the next deck up .

a close up of the gas bottles ,

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:33 PM

If you want some detail to "snazz" up things, those paravanes have a nift detail. 

In Use the big "wing" runs vertical in the water (it pulls the sweep wire out).  Tha angled bit is where the sweep wire shackles on, and faces the ship.  The lump on the bottom of the "wing" is a lead weight, to keep the thing upright.  The lump on the other side is wood or cork.

And, there's the cool bit, those coark/wood floats were painted Red & green to match the sides of the ship.  The rest of the paravane was typically painted the surrounding ship color--which leaves the color pick down to you.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:34 PM

steve5
cheers steve , I think I'm finally done with all the hassels .

Glad to hear it, Steve!

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:41 PM

thanks for that capn , don't know what colour to paint hem yet , but i do want to be able to see them .

got some more work done on the super structure , look's like I need to do some paint work too .

 

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:12 AM

put a bit of railing on while I was able to get my hands in there , just got to keep them away from the railings now . also got some more bits and pieces on .

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:59 PM

steve5
don't know what colour to paint hem yet

Black appears to be middling common on capitol ships where they stayed dry near 100% of the time.

It's kind of like the liferafts.  I real life they were rather sloppily painted in place.  Which would look like sloppy modeling if recreated.  Now, life raft would get unstacked and the supplies audited and inspected, and would not necessarily go back where they started.

So, base painting them Panzer Gray can work, then pick out ones in the stacks to be other superstructure colors for variety can give a good look.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:51 PM

cheers capn , black it is then . the red and green should stand out better on them then .

wish I had of thought the various colours mate , I have most of them on now , reluctant to take them off mate .

photos don't show it , but i really made a hash of these two radar units , took ages to get them to look presentable . paint should fix them up .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:31 PM

the rest of the P E added .

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:32 PM

For "a hash" that's dang pretty.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:07 PM

Thanks capn, what I meant was , I had to pull it apart a few times to get it right . It's nowhere near perfect , but still looks aright . 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:45 AM

apparently these are the mk37 gun directors for the bofors . there not perfect , but I am very pleased with them .

this part of the deck still is not finished , hopefully next post .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 11:15 PM

finally got some part of the superstructure done .

but I have a long way to go .

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, September 30, 2021 4:50 PM

steve5
apparently these are the mk37 gun directors for the bofors

Ah, no, those are for the 5" guns.  They all trunk down to the 200 or 300 deck and are linked to four--one each--fire control computers.  Each of whch had a swichboard so that they could cross-connect to any of the other three Mk 37s, and to any combination of the ten 5"/38 mounts.

The Bofors used the Mk 51 Director.  Which was a pedastle mounted sight wth shoulder harness for the operator.  The Mk 51 could be linked to from 1 to 5 40mm mounts.  Those go in a round tub typically very close to a 40mm mount.  Each Mk 51 had a Fire Controlman operator, and a talker in the tub.

The only guns w/o mechanical directors are the 20mm mounts; but, they generally had a alker and a "position" or "gallery" commander, to spot targets for the group of 20mm mounts whch were often manned by clerks, messmen, and the like.

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, October 1, 2021 1:38 AM

cheers for that capn , as you no doubt have worked out , my knowledge on these ships is limited .

the rear funnel PE work is done.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:48 AM

Hey Steve, checking in and wow, nice progress. Nice work on the PE sir. Your perseverance is paying off. This will be a beauty when done.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, October 3, 2021 2:00 PM

steve5
cheers for that capn , as you no doubt have worked out , my knowledge on these ships is limited .

Hasn't limited your ability to render an exquisite model, though.

For esoterica, radar antennae generate a "field shape" 90º to the antenna geometry.  So a horzontal rectangle 'makes' a vertical rectangle "beam."

This is neatly captured in the Mk 37 director radar.  The double-lobed antenna is double-lobed to reduce length over all, and gives a sweep beam in plan orientation.  The "banana" antenna to the side makes a horizontal beam lobe, which allows identifying things in vertical height.

After the war, when they went to the circular antenna, the whole dish was used for both plan and height scanning, by pivoting the antenna vertically.

Additionally number of targeting (as apposed to search) radar antenna are spun to give a "reflection" pause.  That allows time for the signal to go out to the target and return back, without havng to switch high voltages on and off rapidly.  A serious issue in the days of vacuum tubes.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, October 3, 2021 7:18 PM

man the stuff you guys had to study , way out of my pay grade , but i still love to hear it capn . hopefully some of it will stick , Big Smile

the fore funnel PE done .

  

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, October 4, 2021 2:02 PM

steve5
man the stuff you guys had to study

Yeah, pretty much everything, at least an inch or two deep.  Engineering, Navigation, Supply, Gunnery, the works.  Even some Aviation Big Smile

Especially if a person was in Operations, as I was.

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 4:21 AM

better man than me capn Indifferent

the catapults are ready for paint .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 5:28 PM

got the radar dish done ,

wasn't so fortunate with the crane , on the last fold and glue  , I somehow managed to squash the tip end , I straightened it out as best as I could , will have to see how it comes up after paint and in position , might have to use the kit supplied one  .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:35 AM

bit more fiddly word done on the main tower .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:38 AM

time to put some paint on this baby .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 10, 2021 2:23 PM

Hey Steve, the PE antenna assembly looks awesome. Nice work Mate! It is coming together nicely.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, October 11, 2021 7:08 AM

cheers steve , really appreciate the comments .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:46 AM

the bridge painted .

the forward funnel , this was a lot of sub assemblies to make a sub assembly .

 the rear funnel , with mast

 

 

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