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Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Doolittle Raid

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:38 AM

 

The F4F Wildcats of “Fighting 8” for the USS Hornet are completed and aboard! I set up an assembly line. First I placed all the decals on the wings and lined them up. The decals were then applied on the fuselage. While they were drying I grabbed one of the 3-D printed Moto-Tugs from BaconFist on Shapeways and painted one of them. The detail for such a small tractor is awesome. The engine was painted engine gray. The body was painted intermediate blue with a black dash and seat. I also painted the front grill openings and tires. Once the Wildcats were completed I placed them in the aft hangar bay. I will set them in place later when I add the figures. I am finally starting the Devastators for “Torpedo 8” today.

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Saturday, August 28, 2021 9:21 AM

 

This week I started working on the Devastators for Torpedo 8 for the USS Hornet. I am using White Ensign’s cockpit detail set #3548 and Tom’s Modelworks aircraft detail set #3538. The cockpit fits very well. I plan on having some of the aircraft with the canopy open and some with the canopy closed. Just like the Wildcats I set up an assembly line. Mounting the cockpit and seats first then assembling the fuselage. The detail set includes the rear gun, antenna, and the gun sight. One thing to note, The instructions for the aircraft assembly show the wings folded pointing straight up when in reality they fold over. Next I will be starting to paint the fuselage section and wings in preparation for the decals.

 

 

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Saturday, August 28, 2021 10:20 AM

I need to send you my Marine air group for my ALASKA project. There is no way my fingers could do that kind of detail, even without the detail kits. I have enough trouble just putting on the landing gear!

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Saturday, August 28, 2021 11:18 AM

Museum quality work!  This model, when it's completed, should be placed in an appropriate venue so that all people can enjoy this work.  I'm in AWE of your workmanship.

TJS

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 28, 2021 12:53 PM

I see your mad like I am installing interiors in 350 scale planes

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, August 30, 2021 6:12 PM

Been cool to follow this build over on MeWe as well.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:40 PM

Did Hornet have hangar deck catapults at the time of the raid? I don't remember. But I thought so.

 

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Friday, September 3, 2021 3:41 AM

The Yorktown Class Hornet CV-8 did not have hangar deck catapults. It was the Essex class Hornet CV-12 that had them.

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, September 3, 2021 1:17 PM

I have read that Yorktown and Enterprise were built with cross deck cats on the hanger deck.  Suspect they were removed after a few years.  Since Hornet was built later after experience with the rest of the class, might not have been installed.  Nothing said in the rundown on her

This from Shipcraft 3, Yorktown class aircraft carriers.

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Posted by Model Monkey on Friday, September 3, 2021 1:37 PM

The Shipcraft book may be in error.  Navy plans for Yorktown CV-5 as drawn in January 1939 then updated in February 1940 show no cross-hangar deck catapults.  See: https://maritime.org/doc/plans/index.htm (scroll down to Yorktown).  Download it to enlarge it.

However, as-built drawings and photos of Essex class Yorktown CV-10 do show a cross-deck catapult which was later removed.

Noted researcher Tracy White, who frequents this forum, is likely to be able to confirm or deny the presence of cross-deck catapults on wartime carriers.  He has extensive documentation.  The references I have indicate that the cross-hangar deck catapult was exclusively an Essex class innovation which was found to be troublesome and impractical.  Only a few of the early ships of the class were fit with it and they all had them removed.

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Saturday, September 4, 2021 9:27 AM

 

The Devastators for Torpedo 8 are almost finished. I added the landing gear and wheels. The landing gear required some tedious work to get them to line up together. There are 3 attachment points so getting the left side and right side to line up as well as stand straight from the front took a lot of work. The landing gear struts were then painted aluminum, tire black for the tire and then the medium grey for the hubs and underside of the aircraft. The top was painted intermediate blue. The wings required a lot of work as well as they had a lot of flash. Especially on the trailing edge which is also very thin. Once finished they were painted. I then looked at the decals. The ones that came with the Trumpeter kit had the incorrect blue for the insignias so I will be using the Starfighter decals. This morning I was going to start applying the decals however, I was looking at some reference photos and noticed the antenna is incorrect. The one photo from the side looked like the antenna was offset similar to the vindicator and dauntless. It turns out the antenna on the devastator is actually just behind the cowl and centered. So I need to correct that today. Once I correct them I can start the decals. Hoping to finish the Devastator’s during this nice long Labor Day weekend then start on the Dauntless dive bombers of Bombing 8.

 

 

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Saturday, September 4, 2021 10:22 AM

Very detailed work!  She's going to be so impressive when she's completed.

TJS

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, September 4, 2021 10:38 AM

These ship builds are super impressive!! Fantastic work. I've yet to build a ship model in my adult years but stuff like this and what modelcrazy posts are truly inspiring.

                   

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, September 6, 2021 4:53 PM

Just EPIC Wolfman! I'm finally all caught up on the build. My favorite, tho I love all the aircraft and the skill you are applying, is the trick to make the light bulbs Idea love it

In the pattern: Lindberg's 1/48 Snark and Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! Started my Prince of Wales for the Ships of the British Flag GB...oh and I bought another P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo!

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Friday, September 10, 2021 2:45 PM

 

The TBD’s of Torpedo 8 are finished. After I spent an evening correcting the misplaced antenna the canopies were added and then I applied all the decals to the fuselage and then the wings were painted and decaled. The wings were carefully placed in the folded position. With the aircraft drying from adding wings and decals I painted all the propellers and trimmed them to mount onto the aircraft. Once dry all the propellers were added to complete the aircraft. They were all staged on the hangar deck.

 

I then started on the SBD Dauntless dive bombers of Bombing 8. The fuselage required some trimming for the cockpit section to fit. I then grabbed some reference photos. The reference photos show that some aircraft have the dive brakes open and some closed. I will do the same with some open and some closed. I also realized that the SBD Dauntless is missing one thing that most Navy aircraft have, folding wings! So once I get these all built I will need to figure out how to get all these aircraft on the hangar deck. Anyhow, getting back to the build, the cockpit photo etch has a tub with a seat and an instrument panel with pedals. There is also the rear gunner seat, gun mount, and gun which needs to be placed after the fuselage is together. I also have the photo etch set that includes the bomb swing and the dive brakes. I will be using the photo etch dive brakes on a few of them. I am working on setting up the assembly line for them now.

 

 

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 11, 2021 12:56 PM

Wolfman_63
t I will need to figure out how to get all these aircraft on the hangar deck.

Ah the Great Riddle that has faced every Air Boss since time immemorial.

Now, in 1:1 practice, the Air Boss has a pair of boards--traditionally known as "ouija boards"--representing the deck space of the hanger and flight decks, upon which the deployed air wing was deployed.

Traditionally, a flat profile of the a/c is used, with a stud or rivet to apply various symbols, like nuts, washers, and the like to indicate the status of the parked a/c.  Whihc informs as to whether various a/c are able to be moved, or need to be near repair facilities, and the like.

The trick of it is getting everything close together without quite touching.  And, on the hanger deck, they would often just use human power to move a/c out to where a tug could latch on.

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Friday, September 17, 2021 5:51 AM

 

The SBD’s of Bombing 8 are getting closer to being completed. I made one of them with canopy open and dive brakes open. There will be two more with just the rear gunner canopy open and the rest will be all closed. I had to fill in the hole for the tail wheel so I could mount the photo etch version. Another thing I am doing is since the SBD’s do not have folding wings some of the aircraft on the ship had their wings, bomb swing, and propeller removed then the fuselage was hung in the rafters of the hangar bays. So there will be a wing rack as well as a rack for holding the propellers as well as spare propellers for the aircraft. I also found some reference photos of how the aircraft were arranged in the hangar bay. The very few photos I found show the F4F Wildcats forward, TBD’s mid-ship, and the SBD’s aft. So once the SBD’s are finished I will map out where the aircraft will be placed on the hangar deck.

 

The photo etch set also has bomb carts and torpedo carts which will be added to the hangar near the weapons elevator. I bought some brass early MK 13 torpedoes to place on the torpedo carts. I am hoping to start working on the hangar deck details and crew next week. Still need to figure out the routing for the fiber optics to illuminate the hangar deck as well.

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, September 17, 2021 6:44 AM

Ohh this really looks good. Those dive brakes down are so impressive in this scale. Nice work!

In the pattern: Lindberg's 1/48 Snark and Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! Started my Prince of Wales for the Ships of the British Flag GB...oh and I bought another P-38F/G to use the other nose art Exito Decal (in-flight for this one), & in keeping with MC's hydra theory I bought another F-5E to do in FROG camo!

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Friday, September 24, 2021 2:20 PM

 

The SBD’s of Bombing 8 for the USS Hornet have been completed! I completed the detail painting then applied all he decals then attached the propellers. I scratch built a rack to hold the propellers and added a bunch of them on the rack. I then started squeezing all the aircraft on the hangar deck. I added a couple more moto-tugs and placed the torpedo and bomb carts near the weapons elevator. I then laid out all the under deck girders. At first I tried using CA glue but with the size and length of the assembly then kept breaking loose. So I decided to solder them together. This worked a lot better. I made two assemblies. The assemblies are separated by the mid-ship elevator. I taped everything into place an measured the room available. There is a lot less room than I originally thought. I would need about 0.6mm of space but I only have about 0.15mm of space. This coupled with the thickness of the hangar walls it looks like I will not be able to add the fiber optic lines for each light.

 

There is just no room for the estimated 14 feet of fiber optic lines. So I will be moving on to plan B. Instead of fiber optic lighting I am just going to use Nano sized LED’s. These will be placed in the girders throughout the hangar deck.

 

With the girder assemblies built, I need to attach the aircraft and other details into the hangar deck. One of the things I need is the crew. So I will start off with the accessories I bought. I have a set of Eduard photo etch crew figures that I bought a few years ago when I was getting accessories for a different project. I ended up not using them back then. For this project I bought the Tamiya crew set which has 144 figures in 6 different poses. I also purchased 120 3-D printed crew figures. These were bought on Shapeways by member Holder8702 on his Panzer vs. Tanks page. The Tamiya crew members will be used mostly on the hangar deck and the 3-D printed will mostly be on the flight deck and island. I will not be using the Eduard set. The photo etch came painted but they are too thin to look real. The Tamiya figures are thicker but only have basic details See the photo below where I compare a saluting crew member between all 3 sets. I have lots of fine detail painting and mapping out where they will be placed to get accomplished before I can move on to the lighting.

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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David's Scale Models - https://www.davidsscalemodels.com

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, September 24, 2021 2:36 PM

The detail you're throwing at this thing is just jaw dropping. Un.....believeable man.

                   

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 24, 2021 3:53 PM

Can you use the girder assemblies as conductors for the LEDs?

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, September 24, 2021 4:03 PM

Just fantastic!

Thanks,

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Friday, September 24, 2021 4:13 PM

No I cannot. I will run the wires seperate and in styrene tubes to match cables and pipes that are on the actual ship photos.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:58 PM

very impressive work wolfman . need you to give me some tips on PE work .

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:25 PM

Wolfman_63
I then started squeezing all the aircraft on the hangar deck.

That looks like the crowded conditions that probably were required.

There's never enough room.

Doing one incredile job despite the constraints.

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Saturday, October 2, 2021 11:38 AM

 

This week on the USS Hornet project I was able to paint many figures and get them placed around the hangar deck. I used mostly the Tamiya figures with a few of the 3-D printed figures. One of the 3-D printed figures was in a seated position so he is now driving a Moto-tug. Another was kneeling so he is working on a dauntless SBD’s dive brakes. The last one I used was one posed walking up a ladder. The rest of the 3-D printed will populate the flight deck and island. With figures placed, I paced all the aircraft back in the hangar and added a few more figures, more moto-tugs, and the weapons carts near the weapons elevator. I then installed the aft girder assembly. This has turned into a slow process. One side needs to be attached and cured before attaching the other side. This is needed to keep the girders straight. I then placed some of the SBD’s in the girders.

 

With the girders in place I started mapping out where the lighting will go and how to route the wiring for the aft section of the hangar for illumination. I am currently working on the forward section of girders now.

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Saturday, October 9, 2021 9:10 AM

 

This is week 15 on the USS Hornet project. I spent most of the week figuring out the light placement and how to route all the wiring. Looks like I will be running a total of 18 LED’s for the hangar deck. For the section between the rear elevator to the mid-ship elevator I have 8 of the NANO size LED’s. These are the “Warm White” color. Placing them on alternate sides and staggering them gives me the best effect. Placing the LED’s is a slow process. I first started by placing the LED into the location and attaching it using acrylic gel. Once the gel is cured I then route the wire and use the gel to hold the in place.

 

When you look at the photos don’t worry about the girders being bent/warped. Feeding the LED’s and routing the wire causes them to distort as they are handled while feeding the wires and LED’s thru them.  I am going to wait until I am ready to install the flight deck before I straighten them. The wires are being routed to the section under the island. Later I will join these with the wiring from the island and run the wires into the bottom of the hull.

 

Since it takes time for the gel to cure, I stated looking at the island. Since I plan on lighting it as well I drilled out all the port holes and windows on the on it. For the square widow I used a square file. It looks like the bridge has two sections so I will need 2 NANO LED’s. I then need to figure out which LED’s and where to place them inside the main part of the island to give even lighting thru all the port holes. The last of the hangar LED’s are curing now. I then need to do some painting and touch-ups on the wiring to blend them with the hangar deck. Once that is done, I then need to look at the flight deck and prepare it for the wooden flight deck. This will be the first time I will be doing a wooden deck on a model.

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Saturday, October 9, 2021 8:44 PM

Awesome progress on this build.  Your work inspires me to do the best work that I can do and it motivates me to get off of my computer and get back to my workbench.

TJS

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Posted by Wolfman_63 on Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:34 AM

 

Moving right along for week 16 of the USS Hornet project I have finished installing the hangar deck lights. To get the effect of multiple lights I staggered them from each side. All the wiring was routed to the section under the island so the wiring can be run to the bottom of the hull. With the hangar deck finished I started working on the island.

 

I first drilled out all the portholes and windows. The windows on the bridge were then filled with acrylic gel to simulate the glass. The bridge is divided into two sections so I used two PICO sized LED’s to light it up. The rest of the island is illuminated with two 5mm LED’s.  I then drilled out the funnel caps and replaced them with the photo etch details.

 

Over the next week I will be detailing the island so I can install it on the flight deck as one assembly. This is needed so I can run the wiring into the hull.

 

 

 

See more photos and details from the start in my build log at https://davidsscalemodels.com/build-log/1-350-uss-hornet-cv-8-doolittle-raid/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, October 16, 2021 5:49 PM

Wolfman_63
The bridge is divided into two sections so I used two PICO sized LED’s to light it up.

Small point of order--Navigation bridges are kept dark--else you can't see out the windows.

PriFly and similar Deck Observation bridges will be under red illumination at night.

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