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    November 2005
USS Lake Champlain
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:49 PM
Does anybody know the difference between the USS Essex and the USS Lake Champlain? I want to build a diorama for my father-in-law. He wasa corpmen on the Champlain during the Gemini missions. That was his favorite time in the Navy, well anyways. I can't seem to find a model of the Champlain, but I know it is an Essex class carrier. I was just wondering if anybody knows what the difference between the 2. I know that markings would be different but just wondering if there would be any other differences.
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    January 2003
Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:58 AM
Lake Champlain was a long hulled Essex, the Trumpeter kit is an early war short hull. By the time your father-in-law was aboard she had undergone her SBC-27A refit, which made her look nothing like the Trumpeter Essex. Here's the breakdown of the SBC-27A refit:

Removal of the side belt armor and replacing it with a hull blister which increased the beam at the waterline to 101 feet.

Removal of the island twin 5-inch turrets and relocation of the new open 5-inch mounts to the starboard side along the edge of the flight deck.

Modifications to the Island which replaced the tripod mast with a single pole mast and redesigned smokestack.

Installation of larger and more powerful elevators.

Replacement of the H-4-1 Hydraulic catapults with H-8 Hydraulic catapults capable of launching aircraft up to 40,000 pounds gross weight.

More powerful bomb and ammunition elevators.

Equipment for the handling of Jet aircraft, including jet blast deflectors behind the catapults.

Increased aviation fuel capacity.

Installation of higher capacity aircraft cranes.

Three ready rooms relocated below the hanger deck.

Installation of an escalator along the starboard side of the island for aircrew to reach the flight deck.

Division of the hanger deck space by two fireproof steel doors.

Obviously, much of this doesn't matter if you're building a model, but it's going to be alot of work to modify the Trumpeter kit... sorry...

You best bet would be trying to find the 1/700 Jim Shirly USS Oriskany, which is in a modern configuration.


Jeff Herne
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:31 AM
Is the USS Oriskany a stright deck or is it angled? I don't have alot of knowledge about carriers, but a little. And I know the Lake Champlain never under went the flight deck change.

I know I'm gonna have to scratch build the Gemini Capsule. I can find a model of the Gemini, but it is in 1/24th scale. I don't think it will be too hard to make. It doesn't have to be too big, but I'm not really worried about that.

Thank you for you info Jeff_Herne. I'm going to have alot to do anyways with making the diorama. It is gonna be for Christmas anyway, so that is why I want to start working on it now.
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:07 AM
I have looked and looked and looked and I can't find the 1/700 Jim Shirly USS Oriskany. If anybody could help that would br great

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