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Posted by STUBURT on Tuesday, December 3, 2019 5:45 PM

Hello all, 

 Ive been wanting to use oils now but i seem to have trouble with oil washes destroying my clear coat. I coat with pledge floor care twice, it sat for a week to cure. I thin the oil paint with turpentine but almost immediately my top coat will get all gummy and look amost burnt . any suggestions?

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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:20 PM

STUBURT
I thin the oil paint with turpentine but almost immediately my top coat will get all gummy and look amost burnt

 

Are you using natural turpentine or mineral turpentine? This is known to happen with natural turpentines. Thin your oil paints with mineral spirits, mineral turpentine or odorless artists paint thinner. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 1:11 AM

Phil_H

 

 
STUBURT
I thin the oil paint with turpentine but almost immediately my top coat will get all gummy and look amost burnt

 

 

Are you using natural turpentine or mineral turpentine? This is known to happen with natural turpentines. Thin your oil paints with mineral spirits, mineral turpentine or odorless artists paint thinner. 

 

Further to Phil's comment. Natural Turpentine is so caustic that it is an excellent debonder for Epoxy.

For your purposes, try a product callled Turpenoid. Aarons, Michaels all have it. Odorless.

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 3:14 AM

Ditto on the turpenoid.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:49 AM

keavdog

Ditto on the turpenoid.

 

 
Just remember to get the oil based one in the blue can and not the natural one in the green can, otherwise you'll have thee same problem. 
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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:23 AM

Phil_H

 

 
keavdog

Ditto on the turpenoid.

 

 

 
Just remember to get the oil based one in the blue can and not the natural one in the green can, otherwise you'll have thee same problem. 
 

So is this stuff okay

 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 9:32 AM

I never knew this or the difference between turpentine and turpenoid. Good thread, great information.

And I'm glad you asked, Stubert.

-Greg

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 2:17 PM

Greg

I never knew this or the difference between turpentine and turpenoid. Good thread, great information.

And I'm glad you asked, Stubert.

 
Yes, the blue can...... it's what I always use with oil paints.

Use this ➔    https://www.rexart.com/media/wbr1684_lg.gif

 

 

 

NOT this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQq-N9bC-mz7OsIrDaoMwvHIZ9AnlK6Bc4WOpvH3_dPWwgVuF6ZWg&s

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 2:44 PM

This great information. I'm glad that I read this post.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:51 PM

disastermaster

 

 
Greg

I never knew this or the difference between turpentine and turpenoid. Good thread, great information.

And I'm glad you asked, Stubert.

 

 

 
Yes, the blue can...... it's what I always use with oil paints.

Use this ➔    https://www.rexart.com/media/wbr1684_lg.gif

 

 

 

NOT this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQq-N9bC-mz7OsIrDaoMwvHIZ9AnlK6Bc4WOpvH3_dPWwgVuF6ZWg&s

 

So not even all turpenoids are the same. Thanks for that, DM. Yes

-Greg

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Posted by STUBURT on Wednesday, December 4, 2019 7:00 PM

Thanks for all tbe input . what i bought was bio option pure turpentine says made from natural source tree resin . i will try mineral spirits .

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, December 9, 2019 12:29 PM

Turpentine is distilled from pine tree resins.  Turpenoid is a petroleum distillate, a mineral spirit.

When you're looking at any product for use as a thinner, check the label on the container, too, to help get a better idea of the contents.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 9, 2019 12:55 PM

Also, I don't use Pledge anymore except for canopies. I spray a gloss lacqure clear coat before using oils. Less chance of a reaction.

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