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P.E. Gotta be careful there !

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P.E. Gotta be careful there !
Posted by tankerbuilder on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 6:12 PM

Photo - Etched - Brass .

Sounds good doesn't it . Look at all the stuff out there for cars , planes , tanks and ships . Some is really great , some good and some not to great but serviceable .

 What would you think then , at today's prices , when you get some and it's so thin and so fragile that it has to be replaced with scratch - built components of plastic , which was supposed to be avoided by the P.E. Purchase in the first place ?

       Here's a warning to all of you out there . Maybe you haven't had this happen yet , But invariably you will experience it . When you receive your sought after  P.E. do this and you'll avoid the problem .Take the P.E. Out of the envelope and place it in a container of warm water containing some Dawn Dish soap ! Stir a little and then using a full blush brush swirl it on the parts in the water for about a minute .Then rinse in very hot water .

 Let the parts air dry . Put in a clean Zip - Loc bag with the instructions , Purge out the air and seal till needed . I think this is what I experienced .The parts were etched , rinsed , dried and enveloped and shipped .BUT , I don't think they were rinsed well enough .I don't think they rinse them under running hot water .

     This causes contamination of the rinse water and a little of the etching chemical remains , to work on the parts while experiencing the ambient humidity in shipping and such . Remember the envelopes are usually NOT airtight ! So you get very frail patterns , but certainly not parts that you can bend , fold , solder or use , except as patterns for new scratch - built ones .

 Let this be a warning . With rising prices we need to protect everything we get that is made of White Metal and P.E. Brass or Steel . Go the extra step and clean it once more and store in Zip - Loc bags .

  Yes , I used the bag brand name because I have found they are the absolute best for keeping things dry and airtight ! I even mix paint in the little ones ! Don't laugh , They thus , serve a dual purpose and I don't have to keep cleaning out mixing bottles .       Model On - - - -Tanker - Builder

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    December 2011
Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:32 PM

I just seal PE parts with Future and store them.  That serves two purposes - protect PE parts and make acrylic paint adhere to them much better.

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    August 2008
Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, May 7, 2015 9:29 AM

AH !

   That's good too . I just don't put any paint on them or Future because of soldering problems if the parts are coated with anything . I do a lot of work in 1/96 scale so many parts have to be soldered  .

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    April 2020
Posted by mikelberry on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:09 PM

Tank Builder, I am new to the world of Fine Scale Modeling. I have a Minicraft 1:350 Titaninc that I've been sitting on since 2008. I already had some PE parts for it. Lately, due to Covid, I've been focusing on it a little more. I'm slowly building my workshop, getting ready to build this thing. As I collect more PE, the main question that keeps bothering me is: How do you paint these PE parts without sacrificing some of the intricate detail? for instance, I have PE benches and deck chairs that are so intricate, you can't see the full detail without a magnifying glass. There are holes between the woven slats that are smaller than pinpoint. How the heck does someone paint these PE parts without clogging all of this wonderful detail? I would deeply appreciate any guidance you might provide.

Thank you,

Mikel.

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    April 2020
Posted by mikelberry on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:54 PM

Tank Builder, I am new to the world of Fine Scale Modeling. I have a Minicraft 1:350 Titaninc that I've been sitting on since 2008. I already had some PE parts for it. Lately, due to Covid, I've been focusing on it a little more. I'm slowly building my workshop, getting ready to build this thing. As I collect more PE, the main question that keeps bothering me is: How do you paint these PE parts without sacrificing some of the intricate detail? for instance, I have PE benches and deck chairs that are so intricate, you can't see the full detail without a magnifying glass. There are holes between the woven slats that are smaller than pinpoint. How the heck does someone paint these PE parts without clogging all of this wonderful detail? I would deeply appreciate any guidance you might provide.

Thank you,

Mikel.

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    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:49 AM

One more thing. I always wear eye protection when I am using PE parts. Those things are really small, sharp and tend to fly like a Bat Out Of Hell. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:10 PM

mikelberry

Tank Builder, I am new to the world of Fine Scale Modeling. I have a Minicraft 1:350 Titaninc that I've been sitting on since 2008. I already had some PE parts for it. Lately, due to Covid, I've been focusing on it a little more. I'm slowly building my workshop, getting ready to build this thing. As I collect more PE, the main question that keeps bothering me is: How do you paint these PE parts without sacrificing some of the intricate detail? for instance, I have PE benches and deck chairs that are so intricate, you can't see the full detail without a magnifying glass. There are holes between the woven slats that are smaller than pinpoint. How the heck does someone paint these PE parts without clogging all of this wonderful detail? I would deeply appreciate any guidance you might provide.

Thank you,

Mikel.

 

Do you have an airbrush? If so, put on a light coat of primer. Then, as long as you keep the coats light, it should paint just fine. I have trouble with fine screens, but careful painting should be fine.

Or use Tamiya primer in the spray can.

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  • Member since
    April 2020
Posted by mikelberry on Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:27 PM

Tank builder, thanks for your reply. I hadn't thought about using an airbrush. I guess that's a new piece of equipment that I will need for my work bench. I'll have amassed a greater expense for the equipment required to build the model, than for the model itself. But, nice thing is, I'll be ready for the next one. 

  • Member since
    January 2010
Posted by rob44 on Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:06 PM

When I get PE I clean it then brush on some vinegar on it and let it sit for a few minutes then rinse it off. I believe the weak acid in the vinegar etches it a bit and allows paint to adhere to it better.

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