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Posted by renarts on Monday, May 24, 2004 4:22 PM
I wouldn't mind at all. Cafe Press is a great idea. Only draw back in my opinion is that it is a digital transfer. Meaning it will not hold up like a screenprinted shirt will. Logisticly speaking though it would be alot easier to go through cafe than for anyone else to do it.

Those of you who do order from cafe...cold water wash with the t-shirt turned inside out, tumble or low temp dry, better yet air dry. No dry cleaning and no ironing.

Mike
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Posted by David Voss on Monday, May 24, 2004 3:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman
David, we have discussed something like that in the armor forum, seems to have died.


Was it tied into the FSM Logo or was that something else? I know there was an issue with using the logo. I was just thinking if someone designed the shirt without the FSM Logo, perhaps there would be enough interest to make it worthwhile. With CafePress, all you need is someone to setup an account, create the image and upload it. Wink [;)]

I've had a friend of mine take an image I sent, upload it to CafePress and have a couple of mousepads created out of it. Once they were shipped, we removed the product from the store. It's a pretty cool service they offer.
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Posted by tigerman on Monday, May 24, 2004 12:22 PM
David, we have discussed something like that in the armor forum, seems to have died.

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Posted by David Voss on Monday, May 24, 2004 10:58 AM
/thinking out loud...

I'm surprised that some of the really creative artistic members haven't put together something on CafePress. I mean it wouldn't have to be related to the site at all, but perhaps cater to the Armor "Dark Side" or the Aircraft enthusiasts. Smile [:)]
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Posted by midnightprowler on Friday, May 21, 2004 5:26 PM
Count me in!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 7:59 AM
If we are "voting", I hope that my vote counts because I am new here.

I love the idea and would proudly wear a FSM shirt. I would also need some bumper stickers for my Saturn. "My other car is a Pershing" etc.
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Posted by leemitcheltree on Friday, May 21, 2004 7:21 AM
I'd be very interested in a t shirt or a golf type shirt -
But what about some other stuff as well? I'd love an FSM coffee cup, or a nice FSM pen.........
Why don't you guys sell that stuff?

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Posted by gdarwin on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:06 AM
Big Smile [:D] count me in at the same time. i would like to see some dark side sweat shirts?Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:39 PM
i count 48 votes in favor. thanks for the responses folks. keep them coming.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:15 PM
Well Liam, unfortunately in America, they also want big bucks to be able to use thier songs in any type of merchandising....even if it's for charity....I don't think that people are ignoring you because they don't think it's a good idea....I think that most of the songs that people would want on a CD would be rather too expensive to get the artists to sign on board with the idea. You can't expect the editors of FSM to try and Produce a CD when they deal in literature, and you can't expect them to want to pay for it either.....afterall it is a business. Besides, can you imagine the arguments that the CD would pose as to which songs would be able to go on it!!!! I can't even begin to imagine, as I really don't care for any Pink Floyd crap!!! LOL
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:12 PM
liam i was not suggesting doing nothing, actually i have started something from my end. i do like the cd idea and feel it could be possible given the right circumstances. i can understand fsm's position though. that type of thing would be a big jump from what they are experts at. my friend i am not working against you i am trying to build a foundation for things in the future.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:59 PM
I'd go for a golf or polo shirt, but if a T was all that was offered I'd buy that too.

If cost becomes an issue, maybe the monogrammed name could be an $$ option?
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Posted by JCon on Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:07 PM
Count this guy in, I want one too!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:29 PM
sorry guys, but you are all missing hte point. The cd is not really for us, as a badge to wear, but for others.
Lawerence: Nice passing of buck. If you'll pay my phone charges, I'll gladly call ever record company there is in America. As I live in Ireland............that'll be one big bill.

Fightnjoe: It's actually cheaper to produce a cd, than to make a tee-shirt. The issue is cost of permission to use what would amount to as thirty/twenty year old songs. As the proceeds go to charity, it might be possible to negoiate.
Just imagine the FSM logo on the side of the SallyB after they recieve a cheque from FSM on behalf of it's readers who bought a cd manufactured for the purpose of raising funds to support such efforts.....
I mean, 30,000 readers ( if that) at ten bucks a disc equals money.

But,as no-one is willing to pursue it, I guess I'll just follow by example and do nothing.
So much for the great "Go-get" American spirit (which actually translates into, "As long as I don't have to do anything").
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:56 PM
Just a little hi to all our Aussie friends and other overseas friends. You guys are what makes this model community a family. You guys rock!

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Posted by r13b20 on Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:25 PM
I'd buy one. Even though I haven't seen a concept of one.
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Posted by stinger on Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:27 PM
So how did we get from a T-shirt to a "music to model by" CD?

Just speaking personally, my choice in music is as much a part of myself as my choice of modeling subjects, and within both, I have many options to choose from. I would prefer to keep (and fight for, if need be) the freedom of my choices, rather than have them dictated to me.

I just think an FSM Forum shirt is a good idea.

Vote yea, or nay, and let's get on with it!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:22 PM
Joe;

That's a great Idea, count me in for the polo style shirt [a couple], I'll have a word to my co founders, they'll join I'm shaw.
Look's like I'm the only Aussie so far.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:08 PM
Liam~

You appear to understand the ins and outs of the recording industry much better than anybody here does. Why don't you make a few of those 'phone calls, see what kind of firm commitments you can line up, and draft a detailed proposal for the CD.

Meanwhile, on the t-shirt front, the voting seems to be going heavily in favor.....
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:15 PM
folks i cannot take any credit for this idea. this idea was born in the armor forum. i am just allowing it to gain some sunlight. thankyou all for your responses.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:47 AM
Count me in I would jump at the chance.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:11 AM
Gentlemen: this is about a shirt not a CD. Let's stay focused and get our shirts, then we can lobby for a CD. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by stinger on Thursday, May 20, 2004 6:47 AM
There you go luke! A rugby shirt would be a great option. Years ago here in the States, rugby shirts were all the rage. I loved mine (and like most others who wore them then, I've never played rugby), but they are great looking.

To follow up on Fightnjoe.....Come on gang, cast a vote! You don't need to post a reply, just click the box and hit ENTER!

Thanks for the idea fightnjoe, I really hope this will happen.

stinger

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Posted by luke on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:18 PM
count me in - I would love a rugby top though

it would look great with a fsm shirt Down Under!
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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:04 PM
as i count the votes i see 32 votes in favor. but i see several hundred views. i thank all of you for responding to this. liam although i am in favor of the cd, the shirt from a mfg point of view would be much easier to get into production. and much less expensive. everything must have a starting point. as you said you must take the first step in order to run a mile, i hope this will be but the first step in a series of fsm sponsored merchandise. after all this could open up a wide can of worms. eventually i would love to see a cd but to get to that point we have to start somewhere.

thanks again to all who have responded so far.

joe

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:21 PM
Count me in on at least one shirt.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:15 PM
Lawrence:
How many people does it take to pick up a phone and make a call?
That's all Sir Bob Geldof did and he had a staff of one...himself.
You are making it sound as if you'd need an army.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be difficult, or that it wouldn't take time to organise, but If I call a company and put the idea to them, they'd think I was nuts. If YOU call a record company or agent and pitch the idea to them, they'd listen.............
And ah, the cd would be for sale, not for free. You'd recoup some of your "costs".
It is doable, if only the was a will. For there is always a way. I do believe someone on this forum suggested they might have some contacts who could help.
To outrightly dismiss the idea without investigating it a bit, without even putting out some feelers, I think is wrong and lazy.
Again. men and women, mainly from YOUR country lived and died in the very machines we all make as a hobby. Your magazine does benefit from this hobby, therefor so do you.
Maybe a quick call to the aforementioned Sunday supplement might give you an idea of how to appraoch the matter.
For God's sake, it's for charity! The prestige of such a promotion would be immense. As others have said here regarding the T-shirt, would be a massive coup for the Hobby and lift it beyond the percieved general belief that it's populated by nerds and overgrown boys.
It's also a chance to GIVE back. All it takes a phone call or ten to see how you MIGHT go about it..for charity.
They told the Wright Bros it would never work and they thoiught Columbus was nuts.
If I lived in America, I'd organise it myself.........I just felt that coming from one of the leading magazines devoted to the Hobby in the USA, it would have more clout and believabilty (if such a word exists) and might get a few ears to prick up and listen.

Why would I buy a t-shirt representing an organisation that can't bring itself to care enough to even try. For the price of a lousy phone call.
In order to walk a mile, you must take the first step.

Anybody who thinks this is a good idea ( a cd of music to play while modelling, chosen by us on the forum and sold via FSM with the proceeds going to a nominated charity or restoration project...and thus become an annual event) e-mail either me or FSM and let them know how you feel about this.

Otherwise, I kinda feel as if I'm dancing on someone grave here.....the money we spend on the kits and accessoried can sometimes be huge and it's the companies that make them that get the benifits. The service men and women get nothing. You all go to immense trouble to research and detail your kits out of respect for the machine and the person or people who used it (memphsis belle, big beautiful doll, glamourus glennis and so on), but is that all we can do?
i f I wrote this and sent it to FSM magazine, would they print it in their letters page and then see what reader response they'd get?
They'd never let me.
So, I'll float the idea to one of the competiton ad see what they can do.

On this very forum I read that the Col. who flew the Belle recently died and that every day, we lose hundreds of verterns from the Second World War.
Time do to more than say thanks. Thanks is a word. Means nothing really, and it can just easily roll off the tongue with little thought or effort.
But to actually back it up with action, with something more than a plastic kit, something permanet that would last, now that's worth effort.

Hate to say it Lawrence, but if we found ourselves on Omaha beach on D-Day togther, I'd fall in behind someone else.
Best wishes and all that.
Liam


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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:52 PM
Well, it is a good idea. But I am not optimistic about the cost of it and the shipping to my doorstep.

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Posted by RAF120 on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:31 PM
edog I with you. I would like to see them work in some of the design ideas that were brought up when we were kicking around the idea of a dark side t-shirt.
I would buy one.
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