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New forum not as active?
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:58 PM

Is it my imagination, or is the new forum not as active as the old one? Perhaps it seems slower since this is a holiday weekend or that not everyone has re-activated their acounts.

Just doesn't seem to be as many new posts.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:38 AM

Well, Rob, I have been trying but the screen keeps jumping around.

I know the admins are busy but just typing this sentance the text line has jumpe from top to bottom about 10 times and I can barely keep track of what I'm typing.

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Posted by Kolja94 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:21 AM
I agree - just not quite as easy to use.  I think they might have figured out the image resizing thing (which was causing me some problems), but the other thing that's really making it harder for me to use these is the "posts since last visit" feature - or more specifically, the lack of it.  David Voss mentioned he was looking into that.

I think it's more of a growing pain sort of thing, and once some of the kinks get worked out and people get used to the new set up it will pick up again...

Karl

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Posted by chopperfan on Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:48 AM

The only problem I am having with the new format is trying to figure out which posts have new content from the last time that I was here.

On the old format, there was a little folder that would be a different color if anyone had posted since the last visit.  Now, you just gotta guess or at least I do.  I haven't figured out to tell yet. 

I don't have any problem with the screen jumping around.  The speed of the pages loading appears to be just as it was before AND before anyone say's it!  Yes, I am on a dial up connection.  I have seen where one member says he has to type his message on Word or something of that nature and then has to copy and paste it to the forum.  I have had no problems in this area at all.  But, that's just me.  I'm sure all of those who say they are having problems are.

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:05 AM
 chopperfan wrote:

The only problem I am having with the new format is trying to figure out which posts have new content from the last time that I was here.

On the old format, there was a little folder that would be a different color if anyone had posted since the last visit.  Now, you just gotta guess or at least I do.  I haven't figured out to tell yet. 

Heya Chopperfan,

You get a  (or similar) in the left column beside the thread titles with new posts and a on read threads. (Click here for a rundown on the thread icons)

Hope this helps a little.

(Edited to fix FAQ link)

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Posted by chopperfan on Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:25 PM

Thanks, Phil.

Now, one more.  If, after reading a thread someone adds another reply to that thread, will the icon change back to the not read version?  It seems that once I have read a thread, it stays the same. Confused [%-)] 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:34 PM
Took me a bit to figure how to post-I think the new GUI stinks!
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:07 PM
Have to agree the GUI sucks bt i think once they get the bugs worked out it should be ok i hope.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:25 PM
 chopperfan wrote:

Thanks, Phil.

Now, one more.  If, after reading a thread someone adds another reply to that thread, will the icon change back to the not read version?  It seems that once I have read a thread, it stays the same. Confused [%-)] 

 

It should update every time the page reloads. Sometimes it doesn't seem to happen though. Confused [%-)]

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:58 PM
 Rob Gronovius wrote:

Is it my imagination, or is the new forum not as active as the old one? Perhaps it seems slower since this is a holiday weekend or that not everyone has re-activated their acounts.

Just doesn't seem to be as many new posts.

I don't think it's your imagination, because I see it too. For me, it is still a matter of being a little disoriented and trying to find and follow the topics. It has been mentioned a few times here and in other post, but I'll say it again: The process of finding 'new posts since last visit' in this new format is horrible! That is probably the most important feature that I miss. In the old forum, you could log on and see every topic that had been posted on since you were gone, and they were all arranged by topic. Now, we just get a jumbled mess of recent topics from every forum on the website. Hopefully that issue can be resolved. Some other issues I have are the lack of the quick reply box, the fact that you cannot see the entire record of posts when you are replying, and you cannot see the member names of those who are viewing a topic. And one last thing, I don't like having to type out my entire email address to log into the FSM network. What was wrong with just using your screenname to log onto the forum? Anyways, I have digressed. But, I think my viewpoint is that until the bugs are fixed and the new format is done with it's growing pains, the forums will be slightly less active.

 

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Posted by chopperfan on Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:58 PM
If you will check the 'Remember me' box, all you have to do is enter your password. 
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:11 PM
I too have noticed the lack of activity. I share some of the same "gripes" that the rest of you have plus, I miss the "return to the top of the page" button and since this morning my computer doesn't update the menu page so that it shows recent activity. I've posted in some of the forums and when I come back to the menu later in the day it will show a post from yesterday or early this morning as the most recent. On the whole though I like the new format.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:12 PM
 chopperfan wrote:
If you will check the 'Remember me' box, all you have to do is enter your password. 


Huh? I've checked the "remember me" box and I don't have to do a thing. It logs me in automatically!

So long folks!

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Posted by overkillphil on Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:15 PM
You also have to take into account that FSM has more than 20,000 fewer registered users than it did a week ago.  Sure most of them probably weren't all that active, but I gotta think they counted for something.
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Posted by matthew9 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:02 PM
I must admit I've posted a little less than before. I too am trying to get used to how things work now. I'm getting used to the new format. Besides, these guys are pretty good about explaining things to computer greenhorns like me. Any questions I've had they [FSM] have answered so far. Like anything new it will take time to work out the bugs.
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Posted by chopperfan on Monday, November 14, 2005 1:44 AM

 Bgrigg wrote:
 chopperfan wrote:
If you will check the 'Remember me' box, all you have to do is enter your password. 


Huh? I've checked the "remember me" box and I don't have to do a thing. It logs me in automatically!

Well that just chaps my *** (There!!  I beat the forum censor!! Tongue [:P])!!!  I checked the 'Remember me' box and I still have to type in my password!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 14, 2005 3:30 AM
Personally, I don't trust the member figures shown on most message boards.
They list the numbers of people subscribed which includes:
1.) People that signed up and left without removing their id's(if the Software even allows that).
2.) People that signed up but never posted.
3.) People that forgot their login/password.
4.) People that are subscribed but are browsing the board without bothering to log in.
5.) etc.

Plus, after every major software/GUI change you will see a drop in participation/postings.
Which might pick up or not, IME, it tends to drop.

As an average less than 10% of the subscribers are actual participating posters(if you are lucky).

One Board I know was down because the admin happened to be stationed in Iraq during the crash for a few weeks. It nearly killed the board.

Same can happen when a bunch of regular posters leave due to "political/admin" issues.

Seen quiet a few boards to go from 100+ messages a day to less than 10 a month, even though they record 500+ members.
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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, November 14, 2005 7:40 AM

 matthew9 wrote:
I must admit I've posted a little less than before. I too am trying to get used to how things work now. I'm getting used to the new format. Besides, these guys are pretty good about explaining things to computer greenhorns like me. Any questions I've had they [FSM] have answered so far. Like anything new it will take time to work out the bugs.

 

I also have been posting less lately. Because of the new look (with al thos signatures and avatares) I can't use the forum at work (it's to conspicious). I used to turn all the badges, signatures etc. off so I could use the forum at work but that option is gone! [:-(]

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Posted by David Voss on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:18 AM
 overkillphil wrote:
You also have to take into account that FSM has more than 20,000 fewer registered users than it did a week ago.  Sure most of them probably weren't all that active, but I gotta think they counted for something.

Those 20,000 user accounts that were deleted were accounts where they had never participated on the forums and had not visited since Jan 1, 2005.  We kept any accounts where they had participated (1 post or more), even if it was a couple years ago.
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Posted by overkillphil on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:49 AM
Well, so much for that theory.  I had assumed that the 32,000 members were the ones that had re-registered, although that did seem like a somewhat large number to have re-upped so quickly.
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, November 14, 2005 9:00 AM
I've logged on just once per computer I use (desktop, laptop) and have no re-log on issues. I don't see the need to log off from my own computers.
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Posted by DURR on Monday, November 14, 2005 10:50 AM

give it time 

i bet once everyone gets used to it and a few of whatever bugs in it are worked out

i would say by the 1st of the yr  things will be back to normal

 if you can consider what we do here normal

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Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, November 14, 2005 11:23 AM
Noticed the drop-off even before the new forum came about, seems like the number of new posts has declined since late last summer
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:11 PM

 grandadjohn wrote:
Noticed the drop-off even before the new forum came about, seems like the number of new posts has declined since late last summer

 

Have to dissagree, the forums we're very busy before the change, I just don't have the time to trawl through stuff I'm not interested in.

(stop hitting return, it's broke)

I just want to hit a view threads button, see which sections have new posts, look at the new posts in the sections I want and go, that's all. Right now, I have to scroll down pages of stuff, and run the risk of missing stuff I may actually want to look at.

Dan has it on the nail guys, despite the hard work, which I'm not knocking, the GUI stinks, it's hard work, unintuative and certainly not user friendly right now. That may change but the damage may be done, I used to check at least once a day, now I'll look maybe once a week if lucky now, because it's so damn painfull.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 9:20 PM

This is my first post since the new forums went online.  I'm pretty much a lurker on the boards here, but I'll chime in on the inadequacy of the "Active" posts link.  Having the most active posts sorted by forum topic was a great help to me when checking in on the boards.

On the other hand, I don't seem to have any issue with the "GUI" post editor.  Seems to be working OK for me Confused [%-)], though inserting that smiley was painful (only text descriptions?!).

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, November 26, 2005 4:52 PM
I was hoping it would have picked up by now.Sad [:(]

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:46 PM

 Woody wrote:
I was hoping it would have picked up by now.Sad [:(]

Same here... I still check in several times a day but there is not near the activity of the old board... let's chalk it up to the holiday for now... and the new software.  I think they will come back once they start missing it a little.  "Absense makes the heart grow fonder" so they say...

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Posted by ajlafleche on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:09 PM

 roadkill_275 wrote:
I miss the "return to the top of the page" button .

 

That's why Gates invented "Ctrl/Home". Evil [}:)]

Just hit the "Control" and "Home" buttons at the same time and you jump to the top of the page. (Ctrl/End takes you immediately to the bottom of the page.)

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:29 PM

although i dont post as often i still frequent the forums quite a bit.  the new look will take a bit of getting used to but in time it will be as active as the old.

 

to the fsm staff.  thanks for what you are doing.  you have taken an awesome undertaking and done it with very few glitches. (at least that is what it appears to me)

 

 

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, December 1, 2005 10:10 PM
I've noticed it too.

I've tried to post more here to try and garner a little extra activity, but if people aren't visiting or are having too much trouble, it won't make a difference.

I really miss the "Watch This Topic" checkmark. There are several threads I've wanted to foollow to see what info gets posted, or to bea ble to find them to respond to, but there's no way to do it any more. Sure, I can check the "notify me when someone replies to my post", but If I don't post anything, I'll never be able to follow that Thread! The "Watch This Topic" Option was one of the best features of the old Forums in my opinion.

I also feel the same as others about not seeing the whole Thread when posting a reply, and not being able to tell when a new post has been posted somewhere.

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