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Feedback on the new survey: "How many kits do you build in a year?"

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Feedback on the new survey: "How many kits do you build in a year?"
Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 12:52 PM
Hi all,

Has anyone else taken this survey yet?

I had a few problems answering a couple of questions. For instance:

What is the primary way you obtain your kits?
Local hobby shops
Mail Order
Internet Dealers
Auction sites

My real answer: Actually, most of the 15 or so kits in my stash were gifts. The rest were bought equally at a local hobby store and from Internet stores.

Also:

Where do you get most of your information about new kits?
FineScale Modeler
Other print sources
FineScale.com
Other modeling forums
Manufacturer Web sites
Word of mouth from friends, club members, etc.

My real answer: The magazine is my primary source for info on new kits, but I also spend a lot of time at this forum and other modeling web sites to the point where I'd like to split my answer as 50% the magazine and the other 50% split over this forum, the Aircraft Resource Center forum, the Aerodrom forum, and Modelling Madness.

Also:

Other than subject matter, what is the most important feature of a model?
Accuracy
Price
Ease of construction
Level of detail

My real answer: How about all four? If anything, I would be (and have been) willing to sacrifice ease of construction for accuracy, price, and level of detail. The Roden 1/72 scale kits are a prime example of reasonably priced ($10 or so), accurate, detailed models with a little bit of chutzspa needed to put them together. This leads me to my next complaint...

Would you rather purchase:
A super kit for $80 with every add-on detail included
A basic kit for $30 and add on what you want
A kit with a single version of a vehicle or plane and a low price
A kit with options for several variants of that vehicle or plane at a moderate price

My real answer: A basic kit for $30?!? Are you kidding me? How about a basic kit for $10, or even $5? Roden, Toko, Airfix, Revell-Monogram all offer kits at astoundingly low prices. Those are basic kits. And the Roden ones don't even fall in the basic kit category.

What do you other folks think of the survey?

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 2:38 PM

My real answer: Actually, most of the 15 or so kits in my stash were gifts. The rest were bought equally at a local hobby store and from Internet stores.

 Unless 9, 11, or 13 of your kits were gifts, you have an answer in that there was an odd number of kit YOU purchased. Wherever the pluralilty lies is where you primarily buy your models.

 

My real answer: The magazine is my primary source for info on new kits, but I also spend a lot of time at this forum and other modeling web sites to the point where I'd like to split my answer as 50% the magazine and the other 50% split over this forum, the Aircraft Resource Center forum, the Aerodrom forum, and Modelling Madness.

If you are split an even 50%, I'm guessing you are getting earlier information, and likely more information in "Other modeling forums." Of course, this question is skewed to the host.

 

My real answer: How about all four? If anything, I would be (and have been) willing to sacrifice ease of construction for accuracy, price, and level of detail. The Roden 1/72 scale kits are a prime example of reasonably priced ($10 or so), accurate, detailed models with a little bit of chutzspa needed to put them together. This leads me to my next complaint...

 Your next answer gives all the information you need to really answer this question as well in you're asking for basic kits in the 5-10 dollar range.

My real answer: A basic kit for $30?!? Are you kidding me? How about a basic kit for $10, or even $5? Roden, Toko, Airfix, Revell-Monogram all offer kits at astoundingly low prices. Those are basic kits. And the Roden ones don't even fall in the basic kit category.

You are really answering # 3 "low price."

 

Now, of course no poll is ever perfect. A better way, but far more complex, would be to have you rate each choice in the order of importance to you.

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 3:19 PM
 ajlafleche wrote:

My real answer: Actually, most of the 15 or so kits in my stash were gifts. The rest were bought equally at a local hobby store and from Internet stores.

 Unless 9, 11, or 13 of your kits were gifts, you have an answer in that there was an odd number of kit YOU purchased. Wherever the pluralilty lies is where you primarily buy your models.



Actually, about 11 of them really are gifts. And figuring out the simple majority of the source of the rest seems to go against the spirit of the poll -- I'm equally likely to get something at the local hobby shop as I am through the Internet. Partially this is because I really don't make impulse buys (anymore Smile [:)]), so I'm pretty methodical about what I buy.

 

My real answer: How about all four? If anything, I would be (and have been) willing to sacrifice ease of construction for accuracy, price, and level of detail. The Roden 1/72 scale kits are a prime example of reasonably priced ($10 or so), accurate, detailed models with a little bit of chutzspa needed to put them together. This leads me to my next complaint...

 Your next answer gives all the information you need to really answer this question as well in you're asking for basic kits in the 5-10 dollar range.

My real answer: A basic kit for $30?!? Are you kidding me? How about a basic kit for $10, or even $5? Roden, Toko, Airfix, Revell-Monogram all offer kits at astoundingly low prices.Those are basic kits. And the Roden ones don't even fall in the basic kit category.

You are really answering # 3 "low price."



Not true. I'm really arguing about the assumption that a "basic kit" would retail for $30. That assumption ignores a huge segment of available models. I've bought a few $30 models, as well as aftermaket parts and decals, but I wouldn't consider what I bought to be basic kits. For example, the Fujimi 1/72 scale F-14D is not a basic kit: it has some PE parts, vinyl tires, and four engines with stands, and a full set of air-to-air weapons. It's not a "basic" kit by my definition, and I paid a little under $30 for it a year or so ago.


At about the same time, I picked up a Revell-Monogram 1/48 scale P-38 for about $7. It has parts for three variations, but does not have the fine detail or (from what I've read) the nice fit of the Fujimi kit. To my mind, the Revell-Monogram kit is a prime example of a "basic" kit.


Another "basic" kit that I've bought and am working on is the semi-scratchbuilt Continental Navy Brigantine Lexington (http://www.briglex.org). That ran me $75 plus shipping, plus another $40 or so for the cannons. I haven't yet bought the stuff I'll need for the rigging. However, the semi-kit only has what's needed to build the hull, and deck. I really will need to scratchbuild a lot of the vessel.


I'm not complaining because I think I got more than my money's worth, but this does provide another perspective on what constitutes a "basic" kit.


So, what do you think a "basic" kit consists of, and how much do you think it should cost?


Now, of course no poll is ever perfect. A better way, but far more complex, would be to have you rate each choice in the order of importance to you.



That may well have been better. Having designed a few polls myself, I can fully sympathize with the need to keep things simple.

The heart of the problem I had answering some of the questions was that I think a $30 kit should not be basic, have good fit, accuracy, and detail. Academy, Fujimi, Hasegawa, Roden, Revell Germany and others put out kits that meet those criteria and are at or even way below the $30 level.

So, what's meant by basic? Why is $30 offered as a low price point?

Regards, and thanks for your observations.

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:51 PM
I have yet to fnd this survey. My answer for the year 2005 to the question "How many Kits do you build in a Year" is 64 kits so far completed or will be completed by December 31st. Pics of all these models can be found here:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v483/Duke_Maddog/Models%20Built%202005/

 As for the rest of the questions, I need to find the survey before I can answer them.
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:47 AM
The survey is on the front page of this web site. Here's the link:

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=2362

Regards,


-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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