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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, October 1, 2007 9:59 PM
Hey all you Finescale writers, I just wanted to stop by and say that I really enjoyed the latest issue of FSM. My favorite article was about designing your own parts. I'm in college right now studying engineering, so this sort of thing is right up my alley! I've even got a couple different CAD-programs to work with (Autodesk Inventor and Solidworks)!!! The scribing article is really good as well, it makes it seem less intimidating! The Acrylic guide was a nice touch, too! I've been getting FSM for about 2 years and this is probably my favorite issue. Thanks, guys!
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Posted by m1garand on Monday, October 1, 2007 10:51 PM
I enjoyed November issue as well.  By the way, I really been enjoying Mr. Aaron Skinner's articles about updating HMMWV (October issue) to airbrushing acrylics.  Keep up the good work Aaron and looking forward to read many more of your articles in near future Make a Toast [#toast].
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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:27 PM
Thanks for the nice comments. I'm glad you liked the HMMWV, it was a subject close to my heart.

I'm curious. How many Forum members use acrylic paints or prefer to use them over enamels?

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Posted by DesertRat on Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:52 PM

Never used acrylics before. I kinda get the inpression that they tend to be more finicky and harder to deal with at times, along with being more pricey.

In my little bit of experiences i've always used enamels by Testors (MM and the basic stuff). My only complaint has been that at times the quantities in the bottles have been too little (especially on larger projects)

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:48 PM
I use acrylics, I've found them to be less finicky than enamels....although they are generally more expensive.

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Posted by espins1 on Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:33 PM

 Aaron Skinner wrote:
I'm curious. How many Forum members use acrylic paints or prefer to use them over enamels?

I use Tamiya Acrylics exclusively.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by ben1227 on Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:17 PM
Acrylics for me. I try to buy Tamiya, but if they don't have my color I'll do Gunze or Pollyscale.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:59 PM

Too bad the forum software doesn't allow for polls.

I'm another Tamiya exclusive user, though I would probably supplement the color palette with Gunze if my LHS stocked it.

So long folks!

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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:34 AM

I'm curious. How many Forum members use acrylic paints or prefer to use them over enamels?

Primarily acrylics for me as well, however I'm not exclusive.  I prefer an enamel or lacquer primer,  I prefer an enamel base on instrument panels because of the way I paint them, and I use a good bit of Alclad in varying shades.   Top coats are virtually all acrylic though.

I airbrush everything but I'm not exclusive to one brand.  I frequently, if not always, have Tamiya, Model Master, and PolyScale on the same build. 

I also use artist acrylic for all of my washes.   Yeah, I know the rules say you can't use an acrylic wash on acrylic top coats but rules were meant to be broken.  I've been doing it that way for a long time and it's the method I prefer.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, November 18, 2007 7:58 AM
 MusicCity wrote:

Yeah, I know the rules say you can't use an acrylic wash on acrylic top coats but rules were meant to be broken.  

A man after my own heart! The best rules are the ones that can be bent for your own purposes, and then bent back for the next fellow to follow. 

So long folks!

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Posted by DesertRat on Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:47 PM

Ok, now i'm curious here. I've stuck to MM enamels because that's all i know. But how come y'all are exclusively (or almost exclusively) partial to acrylics? How are they better than enamels?

 

Warmest regards,

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:59 PM

For me it comes down to two things: Ease of use and health.

Enamels contain harsh chemicals, and require equally harsh solvents to clean up. They smell very bad, and my wife objects to that.

Acrylics contain less dangerous chemicals and can clean up with soap and water. They still smell, but not nearly so much, and my wife approves.

I also find them easier to airbrush, and they seem to have a much longer shelf life. I have some Tamiya Acrylics that go back to 1985! 

So long folks!

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:07 PM

I use both acrylics and enamels... it pretty much boils down to what color I need. I've got quite the assortment of Tamiya acrylics. But as we all know, Tamiya only makes certain colors, and gives wacky mixing instructions for any others. My other acrylics are Model Master. I bought these because I wanted a full set of RLM colors. I have a few lacquers... all Alclad because they are the best metal paints I've used to date. My enamels are interior colors for US planes and exterior colors for cars and primers. I can use both well, and since I've got a spray booth in my basement and a respirator, I'm good to go with anything I want to spray.

Many people use acrylics because of health issues and clean up. You can clean most acrylics with windex (I myself use simple green)!!! And, they don't fume up the house so much. Many dry quicker than their enamel counterparts, as well.  

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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:32 PM

Ok, now i'm curious here. I've stuck to MM enamels because that's all i know. But how come y'all are exclusively (or almost exclusively) partial to acrylics? How are they better than enamels?

Even though this belongs in the "Painting and Airbrushing" area, I use acrylics simply because they dry to the touch so quickly.  I have no problems at all in spraying a different color over the top of acrylics after about 30 minutes of drying time. 

A man after my own heart! The best rules are the ones that can be bent for your own purposes, and then bent back for the next fellow to follow.

Bill, I like to break rules when the circumstances warrant them being broken.  Besides they are only "Rules" because some person decided to make them rules.

In this particular instance I use acrylic washes for the exact same reason, they are dry to the touch in a few minutes.  In fact, to break the rules even farther, I clean up excess wash using Windex on a Q-Tip!  AND to take things one step farther, I can paint a section, shoot a couple of coats of Future on top of it (another acrylic), and do whatever washing I want all inside a few hours.  

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Monday, November 19, 2007 10:31 AM
Thanks for weighing-in guys. I'm surprised at how many acrylics users there are.

 DesertRat wrote:

Ok, now i'm curious here. I've stuck to MM enamels because that's all i know. But how come y'all are exclusively (or almost exclusively) partial to acrylics? How are they better than enamels?

 



For me, I like the lower odor and ease of cleanup of acrylics as a rule. But my favorite part is how quickly they dry. It allows me to get more done in the short periods I get to model. I've been known to apply primer, major color, and top coat in the space of a few hours (useful when working on a review model on deadline). I agree though that it comes down to what color I need. If it's not available in arylics, that I'll turn to solvent-based paints. I prefer Tamiya spray lacquers for car bodies. I use Alclad II for metal finishes. By and large, I stick with acrylics, using a variety of brands including Model Master Acryl, Polly Scale, Tamiya, and Gunze Sangyo. Depending on what I'm painting. I'm lucky right now that My LHS carries all 4 brands.

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Posted by DesertRat on Monday, November 19, 2007 8:04 PM

Thanks guys! For me, the smell doesn't bother me at all. Guess i actually enjoy the smell of the enamels, since it reminds me of modelling days gone by (i'm weird, i know). But the overall cure time is definately a big seeing point for me, and i'm thinking maybe i should give them a shot myself!

   Does anyone remember those water-based enamels from MM? I had some of those for a few years when i was a teenager, but i see they aren't around now. Not exactly the best paint i ever used, but i really had to appreciate the clean up factor...

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:16 AM
DesertRat,

Model Master's acrylic enamel were pretty bad. I really loved the way they could be washed off a model with water days after painting. Their new Acryl line is a big improvement.

I do agree with you about the smell taking you back. The other day I cracked a bottle of Mr. Surfacer for something and it smelled exactly like some of the old Humbrol tins I used. Took me right back to the days in the basement building one model after another. Does that count as a flashback from sniffing too much paint?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:34 AM

 Aaron Skinner wrote:
Does that count as a flashback from sniffing too mch paint?

Yes. Yes, it does.

 

We should probably have a forum strictly for discussing solvent abuse issues and addictive model behavior! Tongue [:P]

So long folks!

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:02 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:

We should probably have a forum strictly for discussing solvent abuse issues and addictive model behavior! Tongue [:P]



Isn't "addictive model behavior" a bit of a redundancy?Wink [;)]

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Posted by DesertRat on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:58 PM
 Aaron Skinner wrote:
 Bgrigg wrote:

We should probably have a forum strictly for discussing solvent abuse issues and addictive model behavior! Tongue [:P]



Isn't "addictive model behavior" a bit of a redundancy?Wink [;)]

I wonder if there is a 12 step program out there for "addicts" like us...Confused [%-)]Wink [;)]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:11 PM
 Aaron Skinner wrote:
 Bgrigg wrote:

We should probably have a forum strictly for discussing solvent abuse issues and addictive model behavior! Tongue [:P]



Isn't "addictive model behavior" a bit of a redundancy?Wink [;)]

True enough, but a "good" addict will grasp at any straw, in the search for denial

IE "I can quit anytime, not like those "addicted" modelers"! 

So long folks!

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Posted by jwb on Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:10 PM
 DesertRat wrote:

I wonder if there is a 12 step program out there for "addicts" like us...Confused [%-)]Wink [;)]

Sure is- THE INSTRUCTIONS!

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Posted by DrewH on Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:51 PM

What are those? Confused [%-)]

 Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by DesertRat on Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:23 PM

I don't think i ever got a kit that came with instructions!!!!!!!!

 

But for some reason they always include a funny looking paper mat with some funny looking squiggly lines......Propeller [8-]

 

Hello, my name is Roger and i'm a modelholicBlush [:I]

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Roger

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, November 26, 2007 11:29 AM
You know, I must admit I've enjoyed the last 2 FSM issues very much.  It seems the content has improved and I'm loving the expanded review section.  Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Monday, November 26, 2007 7:54 PM
 espins1 wrote:

 Aaron Skinner wrote:
I'm curious. How many Forum members use acrylic paints or prefer to use them over enamels?

I use Tamiya Acrylics exclusively.  Smile [:)]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

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Posted by DesertRat on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:00 AM
Perhaps i should start considering getting a subscription myself? Who knows?

Warmest regards,

Roger

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