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Posted by Matthew Usher on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:33 AM
Boyd,

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback.

We'll work a little harder on this end to make sure things in the pictures are crystal-clear and properly identified.

Speaking from experience, it can be really tricky to take photos as you build. I have a tabletop photo studio right next to my workshop so I can stop and shoot a picture whenever I need to. A lot of our contributors don't have access to the same level of setup, and beyond that there are some steps that are just hard to show no matter what kind of equipment you have.

Thanks again for the feedback, and we'll keep it in mind as we go foward!

Matt Usher @ FSM

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Posted by bbrowniii on Friday, October 19, 2007 7:30 PM

 DrewH wrote:
I agree with you all. It's been mentioned before and nothing has changed. They have their buisness and outlook plan and do not want to stray from it.  Wish they would though.Whistling [:-^]

 

I did not realize this topic had come up before (though it does not surprise me).  With the range of photo editing software available these days, it seems like this should be a pretty easy thing to accomplish.  I wonder why they don't do it.  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Usher...?Big Smile [:D]

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by DrewH on Friday, October 19, 2007 4:42 PM
I agree with you all. It's been mentioned before and nothing has changed. They have their buisness and outlook plan and do not want to stray from it.  Wish they would though.Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by JMart on Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:51 PM

Good points.. Im a college professor, also involved in all that mumbo jumbo about learning strategies, blah blah... to make a long story short, many textbook publishers have been adding multimedia CDs to their textbooks, cued in to specific chapters/topics. Second generation systems are web-based, and could be adopted by FSM. You enclose a password attached to a specific magazine subscription and/or account what will unlock content in the main FSM website. You read the article and the following ""Details added to the roof include brass grab handles, paper-towel blackout curtains, a loop antenna made of sodder, and a brass railing with lead-foil dodger." The magazine will have a color box or some flag stating that you can see the demo online. Reader logs in, enters password, views the demo online (could be pictures, videos, more content, more color pics, anything too expensive to reproduce on print). Science textbook publishers LOVE this model, keep costs down. My daughter's magic association uses this system... you login using a password that is sent to you once a month (it changes, that way you control for people who have subscriptions vis-a-vis newstand purchases), see the magic online videos, voila! You can even get a tad fancier (molecular modelers do this; no, thats not a category in here, those are the bio-engineers ;) and have a model shot in 3-D , the end user uses the mouse to scroll around and "move" the model in every angle possible.

Anyways, food for thought! Matt, just remember me if you use the idea ;) 

Cheers, James

 

 

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Posted by ben1227 on Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:23 PM
 bbrowniii wrote:

 

I tend to be a visual person, so I find it easier 'learn' something when I have a picture to accompany any written description of the action. 

Sign - Ditto [#ditto], but still FSM is my favorite all-subjects magazine. I have my favorite aircraft magazine subscription too, but it wouldn't make me cancel my FSM subscription. Keep up the good work, but what bbrownii said would just make it even better.

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Visual Learners
Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:33 PM

I know I could probably (should probably?) send this post directly as an e-mail to Matt Usher, but I'd be interested in other folks reaction to this.

I just read through a post regarding the format of the magazine and how it has changed through the years and whether the breakdown of articles is really representative, etc. etc. and it got me to thinking about what I like and don't like about FSM.  Generally I am pretty happy with each edition, simply because I really enjoy seeing other people's work.  So, even if articles re-hash old topics or familiar themes, I still enjoy reading them.  There is one thing, however, that I find myself frequently frustrated about (perhaps that is too strong a word, but I can't think of a better one off the top of my head).

I tend to be a visual person, so I find it easier 'learn' something when I have a picture to accompany any written description of the action.  For that reason, the number and quality of pictures in FSM is a bonus.  However, I do find that there are certain trends that I do not like.  One is the tendency to describe a particular technique or process for doing something and to reference a photo that shows the finished product.  This is as opposed to showing pictures that illustrate the actual technique or process, which are also common but do not seem to be the rule.  So captions that say "I cut the flugelmeister with my sclepenschlub before attaching the drive sprockets", but show a picture of a completed drive train do not do me much good since I can't tell a flugelmeister from a crescent wrench.  To go along with that, my second gripe is that sometimes what the pictures are supposed to show is not altogether clear.  For example, I don't tend to build ship models, though I might, if I have the opportunity.  But that means I am not particularly familiar with the nomenclature of ships' parts.  In last months (November 2007) issue, I really enjoyed the second part of the article on the Schnellboot, but there were a couple of instances where I had no idea what the heck I should be looking at in the picture.  For example, take picture #4.  The caption reads: "Details added to the roof include brass grab handles, paper-towel blackout curtains, a loop antenna made of sodder, and a brass railing with lead-foil dodger."  Ummm, OK, I see the loop antenna, but, what's a dodger?  Where are the blackout curtains?  It just seems to me, that in this day and age with the technology available, particularly when talking about specific (and often relatively small) parts, it would be easy enough and helpful to include a little arrow or some other graphic to highlight the specific feature (or features) being referrenced.  I find this to happen with armor and aircraft models too.  And even though I build both, I often have a hard time figuring out exactly what feature the picture is attempting to draw my attentiton to.

So, how about it Matt.  Would you consider adding various devices to the pictures to help draw our attention to the specific part that is being discussed.  For example, what if in the caption I used above, you had done something like: "Details added to the roof include (a) brass grab handles, (b) paper towl blackout curtains...." and then on the picture you had a little letter (a) on or near the grab handles, with a pointer, and a little letter (b) on the blackout curtains....

I don't know, maybe I am making much ado about nothing, but I know that at least once in every edition there is an article with pictures in it that I cannot relate what is being said in the caption to what I see in the picture.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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