What the Fudge??

Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 10:52 AM

Matthew-I used to do a 'Show Daily' at the Javitts Center in Manhatten every year for a hospitality magazine-until 9-11. One year-the first word of the first headline of the first daily was misspelled-and it was the name of a major advertiser. Ouch!

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, October 31, 2005 10:35 AM

I work in commercial print, no newspapers, and I've had to do that a couple of times. None have been my fault (thankfully), but it's an expensive thing to do! It's worse for a newspaper though, time is ticking!

So long folks!

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Matthew Usher

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Monday, October 31, 2005 10:29 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by trowlfazz

This is fun-Malatesta-means sick in the head, And it's neat to hear you guys chiming on these 'technologies'. Matthew has dropped out I noticed-I think he's a young folk. ;-)

I can still compete, trust me! I've been in publishing for a long time, and it doesn't seem like it was that long ago when I was editing on the paste-up boards with an X-Acto knife! Most of the straightedges on my workbench are retired pica poles.

The high point of my newspaper career was actually getting yell "Stop the presses!" to shut down a Saturday-morning edition mid-run. (There was an error in one of the headlines; thankfully it wasn't my fault!)

Matt Usher @ FSM

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:50 AM

Well-just treat it with respect-hand setting type was grueling-although I only did it during college. I very much appreciate this desktop publishing technology.

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chopperfan

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November 2003
From: Oklahoma

Posted by chopperfan on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:27 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by LancasterFM104

I remember linotype machines as a kid! Even saw one in use in a museum this year.
Who would have thought that machines we were familiar with would be museum pieces in our lifetime?

My mother got one of those selectric machines in her office to replace the older typewriter she had. Those selectrics were state of the art at one time. Anyway, she could type fast and one day the typewriter went "ping" and the ball hopped out and rolled across the floor! The guy from IBM told her to slow down as the typewriter couldn't keep up!

Had a "daisy" wheel typewriter as well, man those are like cranked record players. Oops, record players, there is another common thing from our past that is like something from the stone age to today's kids!

Either I'm getting older faster or the world is changing so fast!

My kids commented about how big the 'CDs' were when I was growing up, upon finding a box of old albums!!!
As for linotype? All I can say about that is that it is very good for bullet casting material!!!

Randie [C):-)]Agape Models

Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:04 AM

Hang in there Bill-hope this doesn't ruin your Halloween plans. It's been nasty and damp all of a sudden here in Ohio-a good breeding ground for bugs. I'm okay tho-I think the ampicillin is helping me.

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:51 PM

Sick in the head. Anarchist. There's a difference? Tongue [:P]

My kids have a hard time believing that telephones used to have cords, TVs were B&W, had no remotes and had only a few channels (when I was real young only two!), computers filled rooms and used punchcards, and that I had to walk to school uphill both ways in chest deep snow.

Matthew probably has to work tomorrow! So do I, but I caught a nasty bug and am planning on taking the day off.

So long folks!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:33 PM

This is fun-Malatesta-means sick in the head, And it's neat to hear you guys chiming on these 'technologies'. Matthew has dropped out I noticed-I think he's a young folk. ;-)

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:15 PM

Errico Malatesta? The anarchist?

You're right about pieing the type being dumping the type. It usually happened when somebody didn't lock up the chase properly. Quoins need to be tighten more than you think!

Anyhow, the question the thread was created for was answered. We should be allowed a bit of fun, and if Matthew wants to join us in our little game, we'll give him a run for the money. Wink [;)]

So long folks!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:12 PM

I remember linotype machines as a kid! Even saw one in use in a museum this year.
Who would have thought that machines we were familiar with would be museum pieces in our lifetime?

My mother got one of those selectric machines in her office to replace the older typewriter she had. Those selectrics were state of the art at one time. Anyway, she could type fast and one day the typewriter went "ping" and the ball hopped out and rolled across the floor! The guy from IBM told her to slow down as the typewriter couldn't keep up!

Had a "daisy" wheel typewriter as well, man those are like cranked record players. Oops, record players, there is another common thing from our past that is like something from the stone age to today's kids!

Either I'm getting older faster or the world is changing so fast!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:57 PM

Bill-I prefer malatesta! Pieing the type I recall means dumping the font drawer on the floor! BTW-I love love hijacking threads!!

I don't mean to be cavalier about this thread but conversations do meander. And also I sometimes get off-subject from modeling but modeling is also about history, chemistry, artistry, infamy and is just 1 component in a modeler's mind. I know I'll hear that this is a modeling forum-but I think we should perceive ourselves as more than people who glue pieces of plastic together.

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:51 PM

Well, we've certainly highjacked this thread!

I have a 2" scar on my right arm. Got it trying to reach around the grippers of that windmill. I was lucky I didn't break my arm! The pressman who was teaching me laughed and said I wasn't rally hurt until I lost a finger. So far I still have them all.

A california job stick is the hand held tray that you use to set blocks of type with. Wink [;)]

Here's a question for you. What does pieing the type mean?

Word origins is a fascination we share. I remember thinking testarossa must mean some interesting mechanical term, then I discovered it meant redhead. Boy, was I disappointed. In the word, not redheads!

So long folks!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:58 PM

Bill-word roots fascinate me. I really like the origins of words like 'ostracize'. I ran a platen too-lucky to still have some fingers left. Did you ever hand set lead type. I remember "Be careful driving elephants in small foreign garages"-that's the top row in a font drawer.

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:49 PM

Hee hee, now you're talking MY language! I work in printing. We even have a linotype machine in our warehouse, waiting to be refurbished one day for a museum. I started out running a Heidelberg "windmill" platen and setting type on a california job stick.

So long folks!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:33 PM

Well, Matt-one of my enduring childhood memories was sniffing mimeographs (sp?)-I loved those handouts and I kicked tail on all of them! ;-)

PS-if you're in publishing-do you remember the origins of the words "leading" or "galley" or "slug" or even "font"?

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Matthew Usher

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:24 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by trowlfazz

Matthew-I didn't mean the use of strikethrough on this forum-I meant it's general use. And to not belabour the point (and I'm sure you know the answer now that I clarified my question). It was used in legal documents and contracts so the original verbiage would be preserved after changes were made. So-what does 'qwerty' mean? ;-)

Whew! I'm proud to say I knew both of those. I'm even old enough to know that "CC" (as in "CC me on that e-mail") stands for "carbon copy." Remember feeding two sheets of paper into the typewriter with a carbon-copy sheet between them?

During my time away from FSM I worked at a marketing company. I was hunting for something in the supply room and ran across a huge trove of Selectric balls in the back of one of the cabinets. My 20-something proofreader had no idea what they were!

Matt

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:22 PM

Well Bill, I never took typing and I would be ashamed to tell you how long it took me to type a term paper-hunt and peck doesn't cause carpal tunnel-just not repetitive enough I guess.

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:03 PM

I've got an IBM Selectric "Ball" typewriter still. Great machines, but I never use it. I should get rid of it so I can stash more kits. Typing is the only thing I learned in high school that I use everyday. We were taught on the old Olivetti manual typewriters. Man, you really had to hit those keys hard! It taught me to keep my wrists off the desk which helps combat carpal tunnel syndrome.

So long folks!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:50 PM

Thank you Mr. Foster-I don't know how old you are but I remember using my Dad's typwriter in my youth and it was very easy to get your fingers stuck between the keys. Thank god for the new non-levered keys.

Edit-thought I should mention the IBM 'ball' typewriters and the daisy wheel. HeeHee!

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Foster7155

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July 2003
From: Pensacola, FL

Posted by Foster7155 on Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:27 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by trowlfazz

Dang it, Bill! I was testing the editor! I've heard that the first keyboards were alphabetical-is that true, Smartypants? ;-)

When manual typewriters were first developed, there was some experimentation with alphabetized keyboards. However, it was soon discovered that certain fingers were over-worked while others did virtually nothing. Additionally, there was a problem with jambing due to the closeness of letters on the keyboard. The QWERTY keyboard solved these problems.

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:27 PM

Dang it, Bill! I was testing the editor! I've heard that the first keyboards were alphabetical-is that true, Smartypants? ;-)

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:23 PM

Matthew, I'll work defense on this one!

QWERTY is the most common form of keyboards. The name is taken from the first 6 letters on the top left row of letters. As opposed to the Dvorak keyboard which places the most common letters in the "home" row.

So long folks!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:11 PM

Matthew-I didn't mean the use of strikethrough on this forum-I meant it's general use. And to not belabour the point (and I'm sure you know the answer now that I clarified my question). It was used in legal documents and contracts so the original verbiage would be preserved after changes were made. So-what does 'qwerty' mean? ;-)

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Matthew Usher

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:04 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by trowlfazz

Matthew-just to test you-what is striketrough orginally used for?

How far back are we talking when we say "originally"?

M.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:04 PM

Matthew-just to test you-what is striketrough orginally used for?

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Matthew Usher

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:14 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by gigalyncon

What does it mean when a forum member has his/her name crossed out? Does this mean they were booted from the Forum?

It can mean a couple of things. A small handful of people have been booted off the forum for blatantly (and repeadedly) breaking the rules (trolls, etc.). Some of the other strikethroughs have left on their own for any number of reasons. I think the strikethrough was designed in mostly to let other forum members know the "marked out" person can't be reached through forum channels anymore.

Hope this helps,

Matthew Usher @ FineScale Modeler

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Bgrigg

Member since
May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:44 AM

Well, this is all speculative. We need a definitive answer from a moderator!

So long folks!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:55 AM

Wow! Guess I didn't realize that-I thought most left on their own (and I don't mean just on FSM). But I'm about as bright as a faraway star.

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Bgrigg

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May 2005
From: Left forever

Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:50 AM

Really? The few forums that I haunt have been rather Stalinistic in removing offenders. There is no hint that they were ever there. I know of at least one recent registration where they had to register again as "something" happened. I rather like that offenders are banished, as long as it doesn't happen to me!

So long folks!

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