No Support for MacIntosh????

So, what's the latest on the issue at hand, setting aside the religious debate… <img src="/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif" alt="Wink [;)]" />

Frankly, I'm underwhelmed with Firefox. Safari suits me fine and works with 99% of the web sites I visit.

As far as smilies are concerned, a simple pop-up with a listing of the code would suit me.

To Mr. Vos and others...

I suppose I should have said thanks first of all, I used to sell Macs for a living and got tired of the daily, "Oh, look away children, he's using a Mac, don't stare...". I WILL SAY THANK YOU DAVID VOS for the website, forum, etc. all working on my machine. That shows that you both understand your audience and are willing to go the extra mile for that extra detail we are always talking about on these forums!

I find that WIN only compatable websites, etc. are either amaturish or arrogance in practice. The reality is, this is a multiplatform world that a simple market share % cannot define. AGAIN, I want to say thank you!

I live in Intel country out in Hills., OR and indirectly receive my paycheck from their success. I have no beef with the Hardware folks, it is the software pirates up near Seattle ("The box said Win98 or better, so I got a MAC!). Not only do they have market share, but they have enemies as well!

I am very willing and happy to live and model in a multi platform world...AGAIN, THANKS TO VOS AND THE TEAM FOR THINKING OF ME!

Oh, and Firefox is cool to! And it's freeware! Try it on a PC, it works great there too!

Thanks to all,

Bruce

David Voss wrote:

moose1 wrote: I'd stay loyal to Macs for the simple fact that you have a better chance of catching a virus drinking at the local pub than having a virus that can hack Mac's UNIX based OS! I think too many Mac owners are complacent over security in believing their immune to such things as viruses. Apple security updates

Point of fact, the first widespread computer viruses were Apple 1, 2 & 3. The first virus was written by a Mac programmer to load programs in the background. Little did he realize the implications of a program loader you couldn't see!

The biggest reasons Macs are "safe" from viruses is that it just doesn't have a big enough market share. Same with Linux. The typical script kiddie or H@Ck3r  is trying to damage the largest amount of computers they can. If Macs and Linux had the market share Windows has, then believe me, there would be widespread contaminations of those systems. I used to have Macs, and now I own (many) PCs and have used OS2, BeOS, Windows in every flavour (including ME *shudder*) and Xandros. My Windows systems have never been infected by a virus that hasn't immediately been stopped dead in it's tracks (and yes, I AM frantically knocking on wood!). Staying secure is fairly simple. It does require continual surveillance. The only system I have ever received a virus was my old Apple II.

Claiming your computer is invulnerable to viruses due to it's OS is like claiming you're invulnerable to viruses because you live in Kokomo. However, Mac OSX and Linux OSs ARE more resistant to viruses because of the way they are setup. They can also be more difficult to install programs and devices, again because of the way they are setup. A savvy user will never remain logged in as administrator on any system.

To my knowledge, not a single virus has been found on OSX to this day; there are rumors that someone actually managed to create one, but that was in the days when OSX wasn't even released and was still in development by Apple... Anyways, in all these years a lot a people claimed to have found the first really operative OSX virus, only to retract themselves a few days/weeks later (the claims being essentially made by anti-virus companies, funny coincidence...). The Apple security updates mainly deal with permission issues, nothing to do with viruses.

moose1 wrote:

I'd stay loyal to Macs for the simple fact that you have a better chance of catching a virus drinking at the local pub than having a virus that can hack Mac's UNIX based OS!

I think too many Mac owners are complacent over security in believing their immune to such things as viruses. Apple security updates

moose1 wrote:

To all: I am using Mac OS 10.3.9 with Safari and everything seems to be working just fine as of 12/2/05. i will add though, that Firefox is a very robust browser for both platforms (Mac and PC). I'd stay loyal to Macs for the simple fact that you have a better chance of catching a virus drinking at the local pub than having a virus that can hack Mac's UNIX based OS! Versus the thousands of viruses that hit the ground every year for Windows...People just love Bill, and show it every day! Never mind the fact that my son tinkers with my first MAC ever, a 14 year old 66MHZ machine that still runs... Thanks for letting me rant back! Bruce

Here's the same thing in Firefox Bruce I can use "smiley faces" T  There is a difference.

<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/FSM/CS/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>moose1 wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">To all:

I am using Mac OS 10.3.9 with Safari and everything seems to be working just fine as of 12/2/05. i will add though, that Firefox is a very robust browser for both platforms (Mac and PC).

I'd stay loyal to Macs for the simple fact that you have a better chance of catching a virus drinking at the local pub than having a virus that can hack Mac's UNIX based OS! Versus the thousands of viruses that hit the ground every year for Windows...People just love Bill, and show it every day! Never mind the fact that my son tinkers with my first MAC ever, a 14 year old 66MHZ machine that still runs...

Thanks for letting me rant back!

Bruce</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good pitch there Bruce but, I have the same system you do but, I cannot see nor use the "smilely faces" so have to use Firefox. (I usually see html tags when I quote ...

To all:

I am using Mac OS 10.3.9 with Safari and everything seems to be working just fine as of 12/2/05. i will add though, that Firefox is a very robust browser for both platforms (Mac and PC).

I'd stay loyal to Macs for the simple fact that you have a better chance of catching a virus drinking at the local pub than having a virus that can hack Mac's UNIX based OS! Versus the thousands of viruses that hit the ground every year for Windows...People just love Bill, and show it every day! Never mind the fact that my son tinkers with my first MAC ever, a 14 year old 66MHZ machine that still runs...

Thanks for letting me rant back!

Bruce

David, You da Man!  Just downloaded Firefox & it seems to be working better than Safari. A little difference in speed but, not that much.

Yee, I have to agree on that one. Safari is to OSX what Explorer is to Windows: a standard. It's hardly imaginable that nobody at Kalmbach tested the new forum on standard programs (Firefox included); or did you believe the whole world was still using Windows?

Of all the sites I visit with Safari, this is one of the very very few which don't work properly with it, which is a real pitty given the resources of Kalmbach. Firefox may have more features than Safari, but is also noticably slower, which is why I stick to Safari...

Anyways I hope this problem will be fixed soon! I realize how much work it is to create a new forum structure that surprises are to be expected, but I'm confident the final result will be worth the effort - and the groaning - so good luck with it.

Regards
Chris

Great, I have to change my browser just to get access to the features that used to be there before!

Forgive my cynicism, but did anyone at Kalmbach do any OAT or UAT on the new forum before rolling it?

Safari is the standard Mac browser and works perfectly with all the other mainstream sites that I visit, so I just don't understand why these issues weren't addressed prior to implementation.

Don't get me wrong, I love this forum, but that just makes it even more annoying, especially as I've worked worked in IT service management for the last 13 years.

Apologies for ranting.

I'll now go give Firefox a go.

Karl

 

 

 

I guess I'll have to check out Firefox. that was an awesome plane huh...

I've just installed Firefox and it works. Its a shame that Safari does'nt work as well. At least I can share my models with everyone else now.
Thanks fopr the advice everyone.

Darren.

If you use photobucket or similar you can cut and paste the image tag. Otherwise you have to type it in yourself.

    Firefox works! which is nice, but it only gives text otions and a "Create Link" button whisch does'nt seem to help with images. can anyone explain how this can be used to post photos or is that option out for mac users?

Trowlfazz, I forgot one needed to add more SDRAM. My Mac went out to a friend who upped it for me. I couldn't believe how much better it is now than it was before!!

And, David, Thanks for the heads up on Firefox... I'll give it some thought. Thanks for lookin' into it for us Safari users.

Hey Raz! An upgrade to OSX will be a big change-you'll need more SDRAM too-but when you get used to it it's great!

Jeff installed Firefox on his Mac at the office and it worked as expected.  I really hate to tell anyone which browser to use, but for the Mac that seems to be the only option at the moment (for things other than plain type).  Something to consider if you have OS X.

I had tyhe OS 9.1 with IE 5.x fpr a ;ong time & then upgraded this whole system to MAC OS X and Safari. It took a little getting use to but, the change over wasn't too bad. I'm still finding my way around the files tho... Haven't had any troubles with it until the changes here at FSM.... LoL.... what a change that was!!

David Voss wrote:

I've asked about the problems we're having with Safari and from what I found out, Safari doesn't have the proper support for the rich editing surface like other browsers.  Someone mentioned trying the latest version of Safari, but I haven't personally checked.  I've been told that Mozilla should work which is available for OS X users. In the next version of CS, due to be released by Jan, there will be a couple of text editor options to choose from.  Being part of the CS development team, I do have access to the latest builds, but I'm not going to upgrade it until it's done.  Just this past week there were over 100 builds (updates).

 

Thanks for the update David,  As a Mac OS9.x user I fear the day has come for an upgrade (speaking of fearing change ) 

David Voss wrote:

I've asked about the problems we're having with Safari and from what I found out, Safari doesn't have the proper support for the rich editing surface like other browsers.  Someone mentioned trying the latest version of Safari, but I haven't personally checked.  I've been told that Mozilla should work which is available for OS X users.

David, I have the latest version of Safari ... I am leary of changing my web browser as I fear change... I am going to rise this out and see how the new updates work before I really bare my teeth... GRRRR....

I've asked about the problems we're having with Safari and from what I found out, Safari doesn't have the proper support for the rich editing surface like other browsers.  Someone mentioned trying the latest version of Safari, but I haven't personally checked.  I've been told that Mozilla should work which is available for OS X users.

In the next version of CS, due to be released by Jan, there will be a couple of text editor options to choose from.  Being part of the CS development team, I do have access to the latest builds, but I'm not going to upgrade it until it's done.  Just this past week there were over 100 builds (updates).

"Thanks Bgrigg, I havn't got safari but I'll see if I can dig it up online"

You don't have Safari? What OS are you using? OS9???

Anyways, Firefox has far more features than Safari, so I'd definitely use that for this forum. Needless to say, IE is really the worst - I still can't believe so much people actually use it.

Bgrigg wrote:

I've heard of many problems using Macs. Do you have Safari? Give that a try. I'll spare you my anti-Mac (more anti-Steve Jobs) rant!

I'm using a MAC with OS X and the Safari program which I enjoy using. BUT, I seeem to have some problems using it here. re-sizing, unable to use the "smilies" heck, I don't even see the pull downs for them. Then of course when I quote... they come up as HTML tags!!

You can also try Firefox www.mozilla.org

My problem isn't so much with Macs, which are excellent computers and an excellent OS. I also play games and there isn't that much choice for Macs. My issue is more with Steve Jobs, who I detest far more than Bill Gates! So much for sparing you the rant!

Thanks Bgrigg, I havn't got safari but I'll see if I can dig it up online. As for the anti-Mac rant don't worry. My next computer will NOT be a mac. I have used mac's for over a decade but I'm getting tired of running into this sort of crap.

I've heard of many problems using Macs. Do you have Safari? Give that a try.

I'll spare you my anti-Mac (more anti-Steve Jobs) rant!