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Hello from a german sailing ship fan!
Posted by Marcus.K. on Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:18 AM

Hello everybody!

Now I joined your "club"!

Since several days I am looking for the different discussions about the USS Constitution and I was very impressed by the knowledge of several of you! I learned so much in so few days!

My name is Marcus Koch (the familyname is the german word for cook). I am nearly 41, mechanical engineer in the automotive industry and - much more important: happy husband and proud father of a now nearly 3 year old son. The next son will be "launched" in August -hopefully without problem.

Since I was a kid, I loved the big sailing ships - in fact the frigates. If you´d asked me, when I was in my son´s age, the only "technology" I would have allowed mankind to use is: the wind. I hated steel, I hated the Eiffel-Tower, I hated the noise of modern maschines!

Later I found my love to the Apollo-Moon-Project (which was louder then anything!!), via that my love to planes and flying and then to "technology" .. so I found my dream-profession (really!) in a field, which I hated when I was a kid .. Big Smile [:D]

And with aeroplanes, I found my way to revell and airfix kits... and later back to the sailing ships. The first was the "small" Cutty Sark - which never was rigged quite good. Too small everything. When I was about 12 - 14 I was building a "spanish galeon" by revell. And this time I tried to be as accurate as possible. This ship survived - with some broken masts and spars, lost decals, lost emblem shields and lost guns. Maybe I´ll restore it and improve the painting.

My very best model-kit was an alaska truck by Matchbox in those days. But then studies and other hobbies became more important and building models was not important anymore to me.

I was in Massachusetts 9 years ago and visited the USS Constitution several times. I even lived in Salem for several weeks - but was not aware that I am so close to one of the most important sources of knowledge about the Ship of 1812.. the Peabody Essex Museum with its "Hull-Model". If I had known that!

Last year, my wife gave me Revells 1/96 Connie as a birthday gift. I had serious knee problems and could not walk for some weeks. And since she had the impression that I need something "calming" beside my stressious job, she remembered me standing in front of toy stores, looking and dreaming in front of ship modells.

I began to prepare in buying the Revell  "HMS Beagle" until I learnd in a german forum whats about with that kid. So I decided to "rebuild" the Beagle as a sort of Bounty again and try to "change" the design.

Then my son came into an age where it is more and more fun to be with him (to be honest, I like babies - but to talk with someone and get response (even if its a kids response) gives me much more!). And since he is very "awake" and interested and since it is very hard to stop him, I am affraid, I have to wait for several years until I really can start building models seriously.

Nevertheless I started in building up a "library" and reading as much as I can - also in internet. So now I know that "my" Constitution will be a rebuild from 1812 - or maybe 1814 - that the rigging should be conform with the "hull-modell" and several things more. But I still wait for more books, more information and its fun to read, learn and dream!

I hope I will be able to add some helpfull remarks here or there sometimes and I will follow many of your shipping threads. I appreciate the existense of internet, such a forum and - you all - Since you and your knowledge are what this forum is build of!

Best regards

Marcus

P.S. - please forgive me my odd language. My grades in school never where good in languages and the last years my english is very much influenced from swedish and french costumers!

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Posted by Konig Tiger on Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:18 AM

Welcome to the Forum from one newbie to another!

Cheers!

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:02 AM
Marcus,

Welcome to the Forums!

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:36 AM

Welcome to the Forum!  And please don't apologize for your English.  Most of the writing I get from the people in my college U.S. history classes isn't as good as what you wrote in your first post.  I'm constantly amazed - and not a little embarrassed - by the quality of English usage that seems to be taken for granted among non-native-English speakers in Europe. 

I hope you find the Forum a good source of information and entertainment.  Quite a few of the contributors are more than a little weird, but most of us seem to be relatively harmless.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, May 3, 2007 2:33 PM

Welcome to the Forums Sign - Welcome [#welcome].

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by m1garand on Thursday, May 3, 2007 7:48 PM
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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:03 PM
Welcome to the forums Marcus!

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Posted by fox on Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:37 PM

Hi Marcus,Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forums.

JimCaptain [4:-)]

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Posted by Uhu on Friday, May 4, 2007 8:20 AM

Its interesting that one of the finest references on the USS Constitution was drawn and written by a German, Karl-Heinz Marquart, which just goes to show that modelling knows no international boundaries. 

Its encouraging to think that, given enough time, military artifacts and antiquated weapons like the Constitution eventually serve as vehicles for international cooperation and friendship.   

Willkommen!

Dave 

 

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Posted by yoyokel on Friday, May 4, 2007 11:07 AM
welcome Marcus !Cool [8D]  hope to see you post some of your work in the forum!  guten Tag !!   your Auntie

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Posted by Marcus.K. on Saturday, May 5, 2007 4:41 PM

Thank you all for you warm wellcome!

Special thanks to UHU, who did send me a lot of photos of the Hull-Model and of the actual Constitution in Boston.

Thanks also to Prof. Tilley - I already got a lot of very new information out of this forum - especially in discussions with you and other experts. You wrote "Quite a few of the contributors are more than a little weird, but most of us seem to be relatively harmless." .. I think in this, all modellbuilders are equal all over the world. Strange why men do build models. But why do I care - its fun!

And at last - of course I will try to show you my results. But as mentioned above: right now I only have the chance to collect knowledge and try to find out how I want to interprete my models.

My plan is, to re-learn how to paint plastic, so that it looks like wood. I bought the Revell Kit HMS Beagle - and since I learned that its really NOT the Beagle, I want to change it a bit and try to create a "typical" british merchant ship. I already reworked the deck and made it a flat single decked version. In my mind I have a picture of a diorama with the ship sitting stuck on a rock close a cornish coast, fighting against high waves and the risk to sink. The seaman bringing up heavy loads, boxes and barrels to throw it over board. Loads, boxes and barrels already in the rough sea. A small boat in the water too to take over the anchor, bring it out behind the ship, so that the crew is able to pull the ship backwarts from the rock. The rigging demolished, some strom-sails nearly blown away by the storm ... Maybe cornish people on the coastal path up in the cliffs - some with lights which lured the poor trading ship to close to the dangerours coast by imitating a lighthouse. Maybe some of them on the shore with boats below the cliff - making ready to rob the ship!

The next model I got on my list (I "ebayed" that one "by accident") is a kit made by Heller. The Sirene. Since this is also a model not molded by a real ship, I plan to show it as a typical frensh men-o-war. But due to the fact that I have no information about frensh rigging and frensh layout and design of ships, I will show it as a former british prize which is now doing service in the royal navy. Here I imagine the ship in calm water, with good winds, some sailors "whitening parts of the deck", others looking for the dolpins which are playing around its bow. The kits galeon (a huge mermaid) will be replaced by maybe a "wooden" dolpin. So the title could be "HMS Dolpin meets its eponym - a typical frensh men-o-war in british duty".

So these to kits should be a sort of exercise - before I plan to build a model with real historic background: Then I want to start my USS Constitution. Originally I planned to show her in her 1812-outfit - according to the hull-model. But since I saw Leftie´s Model with its wide brown stripe ... I could imagine to try to show her in 1804 (or something around that period). Here I still need a lot of help from you here. Since I will not be able to visit all museums with Corne´s paintings ... Today I got Martin´s "a most fortunate ship" - which I already started reading. Marquardts AOTS-book was organised when I got the Revell 1/96 kit two years ago. But you already showed me the "weak" parts of the book and I try to get more information. 

With this ship the diorama could show real stormy weather, high waves, water rolling over the decks, stormsails set, maybe one got a wide cut and the crew makes ready to exchange the defect. But I am not sure .. maybe the scenery will be different.

Lets see, this is far in future and I fear it will take years until you will be able to see photos of this ship here in the forum! Of course I will present you my exercises as soon as something is worth presenting it.

 

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Posted by crazygerman on Saturday, May 5, 2007 7:49 PM

 Welcome to the forums!

“It’s the unconquerable soul of man, not the nature of the weapon he uses, that insures victory.” -George S Patton Jr. On the Bench; 71 "Cuda
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Posted by cassibill on Sunday, May 6, 2007 3:07 PM

Welcome aboard! You can never have too many references.

It isn't just men who build models.Wink [;)]

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Posted by wyoroy on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 12:30 PM

Marcus, Welcome to the forum.  What auto maker do you work for?  My father in-law just retired from Porsche last year.  What part of Germany are you from?  My wife is from Kornwesthiem, in fact my in-laws are here for the next four weeks.

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by Marcus.K. on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:30 PM

Hello Roy,

in fact I do not work directly at an OEM. I am working at a smaller company selling SMC-parts (a special plastic, which is moulded in presses - not in an injection-mould-process) to any big German and some international automobilist: Our biggest customers: DaimlerChrysler truck, MAN-truck, VOLVO and Renault Truck, VW Group (with Audi, Skoda, Seat and VW), BMW (including Rolls-Royce), Bentley, DaimlerChrysler limousines, John-Deere ... We are again in closer contact with Porsche - a customer just as made for us! We used to produce a lot for them, but years ago they tried other ways. Now it seems we can get into buissness again with them. Maybe ...

Our products are truck bumpers, truck wind shields (roof and sides), spoilers, trunklids, oilsumps and valve covers, tractor-roofs (JD), etc.. 

I live in Karslruhe - but Stuttgart with DaimlerChrysler, Audi, Porsche .. thats just an hour to drive.

John-Deere is in Mannheim (30 km from my company) and Bruchsal (15 km).

Since I will quit and restart in summer at a competitor, I will change my main customers. But I will be involved in truckbuissness ... I am looking forward to that!

I learned that there are soooo many connections between the US and Germany. When I started my internship 1998 I could avoid speaking englisch the first two weeks, since anyone I had to deal with spoke german (company´s boss was son of german emigrants, Lab-boss was a german, living in US for nearly 50 years, co-worker was a German engineer, the landlady where I lived at first was a german, who married an american and was divorced again, Prof. from partner-university was speaking german perfectly, etc.). I very soon changed my way of living, looking for a room where nobody was able to speak german. But even there the new landlady was half Irish, her friend lived in France and her last boyfriend was a german...

Hope you have fun with your relatives from over the ocean!

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Posted by wyoroy on Tuesday, May 8, 2007 5:33 PM

Thanks for sharing with me.  It's great to meet other people who model and who live in other parts of the world.  I do enjoy my time with my in-laws; I get to practice my German.  A plus is that he gave me 2 bottles of home made schnapps, Zwestschgen and Mirabelle (I hope I got the spelling correct).

If your into aircraft you should check out our group build; FAA and Spitfire group builds.

Roy

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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