omaha impressions what did i learn

I completely agree with all of your points. I wanted to add 1 small point to your list

- that you still have to do the basics right or your model will not win, period. This was also my first time judging and I realized that the basics have to be taken care of before a model can even pass the first round of judging. a floating bogie or a separated wing root will make even the best painted and weathered model knocked out first.

overall Qmaha was a total blast! i cannot wait for 2012 and florida!

pawjtr

I completely agree with all of your points. I wanted to add 1 small point to your list

- that you still have to do the basics right or your model will not win, period. This was also my first time judging and I realized that the basics have to be taken care of before a model can even pass the first round of judging. a floating bogie or a separated wing root will make even the best painted and weathered model knocked out first.

overall Qmaha was a total blast! i cannot wait for 2012 and florida!

Good point.  This is the value of OOB categories, though having both an OOB and an open category for almost every category may be a little too much.  Clubs I belong to often have challenge OOB contests to sharpen/keep sharp those basic skills.

Do I have to be a member to enter a model?

Well it is in Orlando next year and I would like to enter in two categories one being OOB.

I note OOB can be painted and may also be in a diorama. I thought OOB was literally OOB without paint and on the issued stands if applicable. Where can I obtain a copy of the rules?

waynec

 i have pictures of TtNG YUEN with and without ratlines and the pe doesn't have any but the pe for CHIH YUEN does so maybe TING YUEN doesn't but we think it should. documentation will justify your decision.

http://www.ipmsusa.org/competition_handbook/CompHandbook2002.pdf

things are starting to get blurry given there are OOB kits with pe. this should be a good start and contact information to ask judging questions.

http://www.ipmsusa.org/MemberServices/memberservices.htm

Thanks. I have one done but have not started or selected the OOB and thought to ask now to ensure I stay within the rules.

waynec

http://www.ipmsusa.org/competition_handbook/CompHandbook2002.pdf

things are starting to get blurry given there are OOB kits with pe. this should be a good start and contact information to ask judging questions.

http://www.ipmsusa.org/MemberServices/memberservices.htm

Felix C.

Do I have to be a member to enter a model?

Well it is in Orlando next year and I would like to enter in two categories one being OOB.

I note OOB can be painted and may also be in a diorama. I thought OOB was literally OOB without paint and on the issued stands if applicable. Where can I obtain a copy of the rules?

Any OOB contest I have entered in the past has allowed painting, and aftermarket decals.  Although you have to use kit parts (except decals) and follow kit instructions, this did not apply to paint- it could have a radically altered paint scheme.  I didn't know Nats rules allowed diorama- I assume everything in diorama must be from kit (i.e, some kits come with standing pilots- I always assumed these could be mounted to a base and still be OOB- but never saw an OOB on a base in previous contests.  Also, historically planes that needed rigging, like WW1 planes, but did not supply rigging thread, could still be rigged if rigging was shown in instructions.

"What I wanted to see were pics of the Cruisers..."

i have to collect all my pics in one spot. now i have them over 3 computers and a couple of books. will create a photobucket album and post the link when i get it done.

"Any OOB contest I have entered in the past has allowed painting, and aftermarket decals.  Although you have to use kit parts (except decals) and follow kit instructions, this did not apply to paint- it could have a radically altered paint scheme.  I didn't know Nats rules allowed diorama- I assume everything in diorama must be from kit (i.e, some kits come with standing pilots- I always assumed these could be mounted to a base and still be OOB- but never saw an OOB on a base in previous contests.  Also, historically planes that needed rigging, like WW1 planes, but did not supply rigging thread, could still be rigged if rigging was shown in instructions."

hi don

probably saw you there. let me try to clarify some. ship can have aftermarket railings and be considered OOBs. if there is a rigging plan in the instructions then that's oob even though the thread didn't come with the kit. if it is mounted on a waterbase, the base is NOT judged.

i believe diroamas have 5 or more figures, vignettes have less than 5 BUT an oob (tamiya mk-2f w/ afrika korps infantry) on the base could be considered oob since the infantry came with the kit. again bases are NOT judged.

any oob MUST HAVE the instructions with the kit. all painting is allowed but anything unusual needs photo or written documentation. the weathered FLOWER CLASS CORVETTE had photos of that ship showing the amount of rust on the starboard side which quieted some of the "it's too weatherd" comments.  as i mentioned eaflier, rr tracks are a base and not judged unless in a diorama.

once i decide what catagories i am going to compete in next year (flying in) and 2013 (driving up from denver) i will scrutinize the rules and write up and submit specific questions to the judging committee. for example is a 1/35 italeri MAS boat oob if it has the italeri crew (also oob but a different b)?

^^I saw the video over at modelwarships and for the caption indicated as OOB winners are number were in seascapes and all were painted hence my comment.

Yes, you have to be a current member to enter a model (or as many as you want to).  You can obtain a copy of the rules and lots of other information at www.ipmsusa.org

You will also find a link to the website for the 2012 National Convention with all sorts of information and links to register (you'll need your IPMS member number) and hotel space, vendor registration (to the best of my knowledge, you do NOT have to be an IPMS member to be a vendor), etc.

George Shaeffer, Treasurer

2012 IPMS National Convention