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I felt the .45 ACP I have was good but didn't have the punch I would prefer in case of a home invasion or something so I bought one of these and loaded it up with Federal 3" 00 buck. I feel safer now.
If this is against forum rules please forgive me moderators. All this page says is no politics or religion.
Mike
Hope you feel more secure, but what in the world does this have to do with scale modeling? I'm not in any way opposed to our gun rights, hunting or ant other issue about that, but you're showing us a 1:1 fully operable rifle. Shouldn't that post in some other forum?
This is the only off-topic forum on this site.
The forum rules state: "You're invited to discuss those things not strictly related to scale modeling."
That's why.
Years ago we used to chat about different things like this on here. Maybe things have changed as I haven't been around much for a few years. I'm an old timer on here.
Don't you have Grandkids, Mike?
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LSM
Nice looking weapon. For the record I keep a 45 colt and a 12 gauge close at hand.I live alone no children or angry wives to concern myself with.
I've never been to a range that allows alley sweepers. Costs too much to keep replacing the target posts.
Mossberg 500? I've always liked the look of the 590, especially with a bayonet fitted!
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Have fun.
I for one have no problem with this post,it conforms to the rules.Although when I opened it,I thought I was going to see a picture of your new dog
Great choice for home defense. I keep a Remington 870 12 Ga. with a folder handy.
Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!
I see nothing wrong with the post. Nice toy though.
Cdn ColinMossberg 500? I've always liked the look of the 590, especially with a bayonet fitted!
For self-defense I have S&W Model 66 .357 4" and Remington M870 tactical 18" loaded w/deer slugs
Greg H
"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)
Great choice for a weapon (the audible power of a pump shotgun can end a gunfight before it begins) but the ammo might a bit much for home defense. 00 will cut through the entire house. I've read the ideal shell is squirrel shot (#6). It'll blow a hole through a 2x12 at close range but is unlikely to make it through several walls. One round down a hallway with that cannon and most perps will jump out a window.
I'd still keep the .45 handy. In case they're slow learners. ; )
Gee!
That looks mean .I should think that just the sound of racking one in would be scary enough .I digress though, I thought you meant a dog too!
Now My dog will work just fine. If he doesn't make you go deaf with his incessant barking at strangers , he'll start biting at the ankles and work up. His teeth are sharp too!
Mike,
Yes, we allow off-topic discussions. I don't have an issue with discussion of firearms, but we all know this is an emotionally charged issue that verges close to politics. I'm going to let the thread stand, but the moment it becomes any where close to political, it comes down. Fair warning to all involved.
Regards, Aaron
Aaron Skinner
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GMorrison I've never been to a range that allows alley sweepers. Costs too much to keep replacing the target posts.
Your Mossy is looking awfully nice. I have the 590A1 and love it. I replaced the standard stock with an adjustable one. Love that gun.
Cary
Nice choice GT. I can get to many different things in almost any room I might be in. I don't need a Dog. I live with only a Cat and she is well trained as you can tell from the photo of her from last winter.
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Well I had a nice reply typed up earlier regarding load choices, but my stinking POS ASUS tablet dumped it before I could post it... as usual... I had said (among many other things) not to worry about over penetration with 00 Buck, and if you were absolutely concerend about it as such, go no lower than #4 Buckshot. Standard modern home construction with 2x4 studs sandwiched between layers of drywall eats up shot. A light in the forearm slide is a great idea. I love those things. Very handy in low light situations.
Nice choice, I like the 870 a little better only because the pump slides on every 500 I've held have been loose as heck...of course, my main use is for hunting and one little sound from a loose pump is enough to ruin a hunt...as far as home defense goes, the louder the slide the better ;)
-Josiah
Mike, I have seen training films, live fire demonstrations, and the real thing used on the streets. When you have a real house with all the associated items inside, it is pretty rare for any handgun or shotgun round to go through more than one wall let lone exit that room and go into another. Not to say that it does not happen, but not too commonly. Distance alone bleeds off velocity fast.
I own a Benelli... it's the "Cadillac" of shotguns in my experience... I can have four rounds downrange before the first casing hits the ground. With 00 Buck that is some serious hurt up close and personal. I have fired Winchester, Remington, Mossberg, and Ithaca pump guns, and all are good weapons. It's pretty much matter of personal choice as to your prefence in safety and slide release postionings, etc.
As far as racking goes, unless you keep it constantly chambered (something I am not overly keen on for safety reasons), odds are a bad guy will hear it getting chambered in a real world situation.
GreenThumbIn regards to scaring someone in your house with that pump sound all the experts say that is BS and the only time the bad guy should hear the pump is in a follow up shot. I agree.
I have an aluminium bat and a bad attitude about folks monkeying with my stuff, a .40S&W Ruger for medicinal purposes. I never want to take a life if they can carry it with me on thier backs they can have it BUT if my wife, dogs, or life is in jeopardy I will defend them with force. Really ought to buy a shotgun because like said above just the sound tips the odds in your favor. Nice firearm man.
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