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Posted by Raulduke on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:54 AM

As the thing says, not model related , but I thought this was cool. The city of Saint Louis , is selling off an old stash of Thompson sub machine guns .the money will be used to purchase new side arms for the officers. Paper says they have 27 of them. Relics from prohibition era , and they expect to fetch 22k each. Just thought I'd share

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Posted by ugamodels on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:06 PM

I suggest that for topics like this you include the actual topic in the title. Simply saying "Not model related" is not particularly helpful. Adding "Thompsons to be auctioned off in St. Louis" would add a lot of interest.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, June 3, 2017 4:53 PM

Tommy guns from that period will certainly fetch a lot more than $22K. Depending on the condition and its provenance I suspect no less than $50K.

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Posted by Wirraway on Monday, June 5, 2017 2:55 AM
Over $2m at auction- that should buy a few Glocks (about 2000) or whatever the SLPD is using.

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Posted by Raulduke on Monday, June 5, 2017 3:02 AM

I believe the paper said original purchase price was 125.00 each. Not a bad return on investment. Yes , I believe they are going with glock, currently beretta.

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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 10:13 PM

Time to buy Glock stock.

If they are from that time period they will have a limited amount of people that can get one.  More than likely these will be fully automatic and if they are only certain people (like class 3 permit owners), could get one.

More than likely a museum might want one or a private owner.  Police departments would have no use for them.  They weigh over 20 pounds each with the long barrel.  Modern weapons weigh far less (a AR-15/M-16 comes in at abouit 5 pounds), and have a good deal of power.  ARs, mini14/30s, Berretta Storm carbines and so on only cost hundreds, not thousands and are more useful.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:06 PM

Remember the Reising gun?

.45 ACP weighed about 9 pounds.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:13 PM

They are most likely 1928 Colt models and are subject to NFA rules. Any person can purchase an NFA weapon as long as they meet the strict ATF requirements and the proper paperwork is approved. There is also a $200 NFA stamp That the applicant will pay. All Thompson 1928 and military M1 submachine gun models have a 10" barrel.

As Ikar mentioned, PDs are nowdays interested in modern weapon platforms.  I remember when my police dept (Dade Co. Public Safety now known as Miami Dade Police) had 2 beautiful 1928 Colts as late as 1977. My friend was relentless in tracking them down thru the NFA registry and was able to purchase one a couple of years back. I was afraid to ask how much he paid for it but I'm guessing $35K to $40K. 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:18 PM

GMorrison

Remember the Reising gun?

.45 ACP weighed about 9 pounds.

 

Yes. Read about them being unreliable with the Marines in the Pacific. The Thompson was a welcomed addition and replaced the Reising. Also Thompson sub guns weigh a little over 10 lbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 1:37 PM

ugamodels

I suggest that for topics like this you include the actual topic in the title. Simply saying "Not model related" is not particularly helpful. Adding "Thompsons to be auctioned off in St. Louis" would add a lot of interest.

 
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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 2:53 PM

GMorrison

Remember the Reising gun?

.45 ACP weighed about 9 pounds.

 

 

My Deparment has a whole bunch of those in our armory in East L.A.  Aside from a few range instructors who have a historical interest in firearms for one reason or another, that are the only use those have had in probably 50+ years. M4s and MP-5s are the preferred tools of the trade in place of the Tommy Gun for the past 40 years or so. Like the BAR for law enforcement in certain situations, that is something from another time. And only available for a certain select portion of the general public at auction.

 

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Posted by Raulduke on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 3:22 PM

Yeah, as far as modern platforms I think they also plan to purchase some ar 15s. Sad days indeed. When I was growing up all a cop needed was a stick, and maybe a slapjack.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 3:56 PM

Hey stik, you mentioned the BAR and I remembered that was Clyde Barrow's favorite weapon.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:40 PM

Private Kirby too.

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Posted by DasBeav on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:49 PM

GMorrison

Private Kirby too.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 10:43 PM

Raul, supposedly the Feds are going to re instate the surplus military equipment program for law enforcement, and the can obtain those AR's that way for less cost. 

And it all depends on the area as far as a cop needs being a stick and a sap. Every now and then, even in the old days, some bad guy w/firepower would come along. Gangsters, Bank Robbers, or plain old radicals can be found for well over 100 years.

 

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Posted by Raulduke on Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:54 AM

Yeah, I guess they had a good reason to have them in the first place. i was referring to the old days when a kid could walk down the street with no worries. Now I won't even take the trash out without a sidearm. That's not a joke, that's south Saint louis

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Posted by Raulduke on Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:56 AM

Yeah? They always gave it to the big guy,right

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:15 AM

Raulduke

 Now I won't even take the trash out without a sidearm. That's not a joke, that's south Saint louis

 

 

Ditto

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:18 PM

Interesting news.  Thanks for posting.  Always liked the Thompson since Sgt. Saunders carried it.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:40 PM

plasticjunkie
 
Raulduke

 Now I won't even take the trash out without a sidearm. That's not a joke, that's south Saint louis

 

 

 

 

Ditto

 

I never leave home without "Baby" (Security Six with Herrett's grips, springs and trigger job), and always have something within reach in the house.  Most of the time also have the backup on me.   And I live in a fairly tame area....Like someone said on a Yahoo post awhile back, "Yeah, those 'Nam vets, don't mess with them...too old to fight and too young to die, so they will just kill you"

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:32 AM

Sadly;

  That statement seems true to a degree . Carrying PayRoll once . The situation turned bad . Thank Gosh I was carrying my trusty old Colt 1911 loaded ! It was over in seconds I guess . But in the hospital , the cop in charge said I saved the state some money . T.B.

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