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New movie 'First Man' omits the American Flag on the moon

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New movie 'First Man' omits the American Flag on the moon
Posted by keavdog on Saturday, September 01, 2018 1:42 AM

Thanks,

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 01, 2018 2:27 AM

Yup... remember when Superman stood for three things: Truth, Justice, and______________.

Its ok though. Look no further than Neil’s shoulder. 

 

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Posted by greghile on Saturday, September 01, 2018 4:24 AM

Actually the American flag appears throughout the movie. What doesn't appear is the planting of the flag. As Armstong's sons have said, Neil considered the moon landing more as a human achievement, hence his statement, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

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Posted by tankboy51 on Saturday, September 01, 2018 8:11 AM

From what I remember, and it could be wrong, the flag they planted, ended up in the soil after lift off.  It was placed too close to the LM.   I was a Senior in high school at the time, and was paying very close attention to the space program.  Yes, l think that Mr. Armstrong was right in his thoughts on the matter.

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 2:24 AM

I don't disagree with the fact that this was a huge human achievement.  Highlight his thoughts an beliefs, but don't omit the things that happend.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:58 AM

This doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me. It's a movie. 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Friday, September 07, 2018 2:48 PM

Giant leap for mankind...brought to you by American taxpayers, American engeneering, American ingenuinity and american lives. OK, Verner was German but between being snatched by Soviets or Americans I think he got the better (read: winning) side. 

While planting of the flag was low on the priorities of the mission, I think it should have been shown as it is an important symbol. And the flag didn't just appear on the moon somehow, it was planted so may as well show a minute or so of it being planted.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 07, 2018 4:59 PM

The simple fact is that the moon landing was an act of nationalism. If it was not for the space race between the Soviets and USA, the moon landing would not have occurred in 1969. It probably would have eventually occurred, but not at the pace that happened. No other Western country could fund such an endeavor. Yes, it was the greatest human science achievement yet. But it was due to nationalist reasons. Beat the Soviets there.

 

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Posted by Rotorhead13 on Friday, September 07, 2018 5:44 PM

To me, it doesn't really matter what Neil Armstrong may possibly have thought about it, the fact is it was an important moment to those of us who were alive at the time and saw it on TV. I seem to recall two astronauts standing there, saluting it, and that was an important memory. The biggest reason it was stupid to omit is because that thoughtless act upsets more people than would have gotten upset with the flag raising being shown. The type folks they are trying to appease are biased enough to not watch the movie anyway, so all the producer(s) did was guarantee the movie will make less money. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, September 07, 2018 6:50 PM

Enough already. It's a movie.

Let me repeat; it's a movie.

Not a documentary. Not a course in school.

It's (arguably) someone's artist creation.

Yes, some would turn this into a political issue, like just about everything else, but...it's a movie.

And by the way this is a hobby forum, not a politics forum.

Maverick shot down a Russian in that movie, and somehow we've survived.

Because...it's a movie.

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Posted by richs26 on Friday, September 07, 2018 8:25 PM

It was made to appeal to the largest audience in the world, China.  The US is secondary to the film market.

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Posted by Rotorhead13 on Friday, September 07, 2018 8:29 PM

Our hobby is pretty much all about history, accurate history. We don't build models or dioramas too often on movie scenes. Most of us want to get as many details correct as possible, and we even hate it when Hollywood doesn't bother to get the uniforms correct. If this particular discussion inspires a few folks to create a real moon landing scene then it has served it's intended purpose. Those who aren't interested are always free to ignore it. Yay, freedom!

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, September 08, 2018 10:04 AM

Some years ago at one of the nationals, someone did a diorama of what really happened then.  It shows the L.E.M. with the flag, one astronaut walking toward the second one a little distance from the ship.  He's saying "Houston, we have a problem" while looking into a small crater that has a empty 6 pack of cans in it.  

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