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Licensing and the Market-Do they always see eye to eye? NO !

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Licensing and the Market-Do they always see eye to eye? NO !
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, June 21, 2019 12:17 PM

Hi Ya'll; 

    I thought I would write this after reading an article in the Space Forum. We do have a Mars Rover and a Moon Lander from Metal earth . Small but neat . As far as plastic, I think I saw one in passing some time back( the Mars Rover ).

    Questions circulate as to why not? Plastic or Resin even. Well first you have Something raise it's ugly head .Homeland Security. They could be behind some limitations for the models and licensing for National Security reasons.

   Probably Not, but that stuff has to be factored in. Licensing is a long and ardous process and sometimes expensive as well. Then of course there's the market.The market for Star Wars in many forms is out there as well as Star Trek.

      The real stuff? Well, Sorry modelers, since the old Monogram Days and Willy Ley's models and Revell's great stuff there's a very limited market now .Why?We grew up!

    Sadly,Since Challenger, the market took a dive into obscurity. They are out there except the newer neato little stuff ( The Rovers etc.) Aftermarket) there isn't the interest there was before.

 

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, June 21, 2019 12:42 PM

Strange you should mention Monogram and Willy Ley's models.  I found one in my stash, and just yesterday opened it up for the first time, to see what was in there.  Actually, it is a simple but very well made model of a "Space Taxi", complete with a set of well-written instructions, illustrated by photographs.  All in all, a first-class product!

The original copyright was 1959, this one was re-issued in 1996, the year in which I bought it at a HobbyTown in Atlanta.

I didn't think anybody else remembered Willy Ley, let alone these models!

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, June 21, 2019 12:53 PM

Now see I didn't know about Willy Ley. I just finished reading through his Wiki entry and a few other things.

 

Wow, thanks for the information.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, June 21, 2019 1:15 PM

He was a co-hort of Wernher Von Braun, working with NASA in the early days... 

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 21, 2019 1:16 PM

I think part of the interest level difference lies in the differences between a manned and unmanned space program. Unmanned exploration just does not have the same level of excitement as the manned missions. Yes, we can all thrill at Voyager leaving the solar system, or the various Mars landers of the past 40+ years. But does that compare to the heady excitement of the manned missions that got us to the moon? Putting people into space adds to the interest level. The ISS is interesting in its own level, but mostly just an updated version of what was done in the 70’s with Salyut and Skylab. 

You want excitement and interst levels to rise again, put people on rockets to other astronomical bodies.

 

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Posted by phasers.on.fun on Friday, June 21, 2019 5:59 PM

stikpusher

I think part of the interest level difference lies in the differences between a manned and unmanned space program. Unmanned exploration just does not have the same level of excitement as the manned missions.

 

Aoshima produces a very fine line of unmanned satellites. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 22, 2019 8:59 AM

phasers.on.fun

 

 
stikpusher

I think part of the interest level difference lies in the differences between a manned and unmanned space program. Unmanned exploration just does not have the same level of excitement as the manned missions.

 

 

Aoshima produces a very fine line of unmanned satellites. 

 

 

Yes, and there are older kits of some of the original probes and satellite kits available. Doesn't Hasegawa make a V’ger? I mean Voyager Wink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, June 22, 2019 9:53 AM

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:36 AM

Willy Ley wrote an excellent book on the V-2 program way back when. Better than books I have read since.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by phasers.on.fun on Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:55 AM

Hasegawa makes a very nice Voyager 1/2 (there is an Eduard PE set available for the model as well).

Both LionRoar and Trumpeter also produce excellent kits of Chinese satellites.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, June 23, 2019 12:54 PM

Good Gosh"G':

       I must've built at least six of those! The teachers all wanted one after I won the school science fair with one made out of Coffee cans and Oatmeal boxes ( with the innards) I might add! Drawings courtesy of Popular Science Magazine .

       The fair winner was at least six foot long! Can you imagine an 11year old walking to school with a covered tube on his shoulder?Renwal and Revell made some doozies didn't they?

        What I liked about them and Monogram was the clean pieces and reasonable assembly steps. Plus,they looked great beside all my Lindberg stuff. Which at that time weren't perfect but if you wanted space vehicles They were okay .

      There used to be, where my Grandmother lived ( Buffalo,N.Y.) a toy store called Sciandra's Toy City on Genessee st. near the N.Y.C., Tracks! .They had a multi colored Black and White rocket that was taller than me and broke down and all fit in the main engine section.

   Imagine my surprise when along with Lionel I got that thing for Christmas .Why it must've cost Thirty Bucks Back then ! Probably Thousands today if you found a complete one !Space was and will always be Cool !

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, June 23, 2019 1:12 PM

Hi;

     I thought the clear topped EVA pod was neat too. Remember it clipped top first into the Exploratory ship? Then at that time they had a different type under development to see if it would work under-water for oceanographic Surveys. 

 That courtesy of National Geographis,Popular science and Smithsonian Magazine! Looked a lot alike too. Revell had a ship in Multiple parts .At least a foot high , Maybe taller. It had a Top section with all the detail inside this spindle shaped craft, and little I think almost 1/160 scale astronauts in it .The whole flight deck opened and the place to put the little aircraft that it carried too ! 

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