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New Modeler Adventures
Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PM
I'm relatively new to modeling. Always like it, but more of a snap-together/ProFinish type of modeler. A few months ago I started experimenting with putting more of a "real" model together that actually needed painting. Well, I loved it. I was having a blast until I bought a FineScale Modeler Magazine and realized how poor my paint job was. Not to meantion the fact that I didn't know what filler putty was or why I needed sand paper. I have been a research hound since then and have really developed a great interest in modeling. I would love to be able to produce something to put in my office that looks half as good as the models I see in FSM.

I thought some of you would get a kick out of my first experiences with airbrushing. I should have started off simple, like some articles I read suggest, but I didn't. My mom is an artist and had a Badger 150 collecting dust. She didn't mind parting with it so all I needed was an air supply. I wanted to just try it out so I bought a can of compressed air from Hobby Lobby. Sure enough, the connection didn't fit. So I thought, what the heck, and bought a CH 2 gallon compressor. I hooked it all up, but I was scared to death to try it out. I read up on as much as I could about airbrushes and airbrushing but It's hard to comprehend without actually doing it. But all the articles I found worried me about screwing up the airbrush and all the problems that could arise. I finally got the nerve to try it out. I had purchased some paint thinner, but then read that some people use mineral spirits or laquer thinner. All the articles warn about toxic fumes and suggest you work in a ventilated area. I was working in my garage that had a small ceiling fan with the door open. I decided to mix the enamel paint with the original paint thinner I bought. I didn't quite know what to mix it in. I finally decided to do it in the metal cup first, since it would only be a small amount. I used soda straws to try and measure the paint and the thinner about in equal parts. Of course, that is hard to do when the thinner is thin and the paint is thick. I used a toothpick to stir it as much as I could. I stuck it on the airbrush, turned the regulator to about 20 psi (didn't have a clue what would be best) and held my breath. I had an older model to test it out on that my son had demolished. (He's good at providing broken models for me to experiment with.) I pushed the button down and pulled back a little. You know that the way most ceilings look? All those bumps and splatters? Yep, thats what my first spray looked like. I tried pulling make more and the clumps just got bigger. Finally, it wouldn't even hardly spray. I was scared as hell that my first attempt had screwed up the airbrush. I desperately fumbled for the other cup, the clear one with the screw on cap and tube. I poured paint thinner into it and went to replace the metal cup with the clear one. When I took the metal cup out, paint started pouring out from the bottom of the air brush. I fumbled around for something to wipe it up as quickly as possible. I stuck the clear cup on and started spraying. Nothing came out for several seconds, but finally it started spraying white and then a clear mist. Once I felt comfortable that I got it pretty clear I took the clear cup off. I didn't know what the problem was but thought maybe it was the paint I tried or maybe the way the metal cup works or maybe it just wasn't thinned enough. I got some different paint and poured it into the clear cup that contained what was left of the thinner I used to clean out the airbrush. I started stirring but noticed that not only did the paint not mix very well with the thinner, it was freakin like jelling in a ball by itself. I didn't know what to think. I opened up a can of the laquer thinner and poured some in. What do ya know, it pratically mixed without me even needing to stir. I have no idea what the problem with the paint thinner was, but oh well. I cleaned the clear cup out and started anew with the laquer thinner. The paint mixed great and I was off like a terd of hurdles. I hooked it up and started spraying. It was working, but I didn't know how well, what was good or even what was bad. But it wasn't clumping up, that was a good thing. I pulled back on the button and it would paint pretty good, but I was getting a big mist. I would push the button forward and it seemed like it wasn't painting enough. I would pull it back and more mist. Push it forward, not enough paint. By this time I was feeling a little woozy. I wasn't sure if it was from the laquer thinner mist, my frustration or the 8 beers I had trying to figure this damn thing out. I got worried and decided to quit for the night and see what the results on the test model were once it dried. I spent the better part of an hour trying to make sure I cleaned the heck out of the airbrush. I went though about a roll of paper towels and more toxic fumes. I looked at the model the next day and it actually didn't look that bad. I read up some more and things make more sense now that I actually tried to airbrush, but what a poor first experience. I hope I will have the courage to try again. (just kidding)

Hope I didn't bore anyone too much with this, just thought I would like to share it. It's too long to proof read and it's time to go home from work, so I hope it's not as sloppy as my first airbrushing. :)
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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:59 PM
Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-Z

What? Oh, bored us? No not a bit. LOL. (Just kidding, pal.)

It's pretty ok to tell us all about it. Most of us here had almost the same experience with our first time (with airbrush that is). It is good to hear that you are slowly getting the hang of it. Be patient and you will get there.

Good luck and thanks for sharing.

  • Member since
    January 2003
Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:27 PM
Mistakes .... it's how most of us learned !!!!

Thanks for sharing and stick with it, check out the forums here and you'll pick up all kinds of tricks and techniques.

Most of all ..... enjoy !!!!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Central MI
Posted by therriman on Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:49 PM
The only stupid mistake is the one you DID NOT learn from. There isn't one person on this forum who didn't go thru what you're going thru. As for airbrushing it takes practice, practice, practice.

Keep up your research and practice and patience and you'll see the improved results in short order.
Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Washington State
Posted by leemitcheltree on Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:36 PM
Don't despair.
We've ALL been there. You gotta start somewhere - the beginning is the only place.
Airbrushing can really be BLACK ART. It's like golf - fantastic and frustrating at the same time.
When you paint (until you get more experience), ALWAYS use the paint manufacturers thinners for that type of paint. Later, you'll figure out what goes with what.
Get yerself a bunch of those beer cans you have left over from your last painting experience and experiment on those.
Try different paint consistencies, air pressures and distances from the work. Note the results down on a piece of paper. Then study those results and compare them to the bit of paper. You'll soon get the hang of it.
Also, FSM have a few good books on learning to airbrush - have a look at:
http://store.yahoo.net/kalmbachcatalog/12173.html
That book is cheap at twice the price - it'll tell you everything you need to know.
Cheers mate
LeeTree

Cheers, LeeTree
Remember, Safety Fast!!!

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    November 2003
Posted by TryintoModel on Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:29 PM
Thanks for the advice. I just ordered the airbrushing book. :)
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  • From: Third rock from the sun.
Posted by Woody on Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:30 PM
The saying "Practice makes perfect" is especially true of the airbrush. It sounds like your off to a great start.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: USA, GA
Posted by erush on Friday, November 14, 2003 6:59 AM
Yep, that happens to most everyone the first time. Don't give up, just practice. On thinning paint, just make sure you use the correct thinner for the type of paint. There are enamle's, acrylics, and laquer's most commonly used in modeling and oyu need the right thinner for each one. Then it's just a matter of the amount of thinner which you can experiment with to see what works for you and your airbrush.

Keep at it and holler if you have questions, we're all glad to help.

Eric
Hi, I'm Eric and I'm a Modelholic too. I think I have PE poisioning.     "Friendly fire...isn't"
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  • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, November 14, 2003 9:51 AM
"Never give up, never surrender", as they were saying in that movie... We've all been there and all have learned from it (if not we would be collecting stamps or mugs)
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