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                        Patterns?

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                        David Voss
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Waukesha, WI
                        Posted by David Voss on Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:26 PM
                        Interesting discussion.

                        Here are a couple of links that may prove insightful and add to the discussion. Smile [:)]

                        Ship Naming in the United States Navy (official U.S. Navy web site)

                        Naming Ships - US Navy Ships @ www.fas.org

                        Index of Russian Naval Ship Names

                        David Voss Senior Web Developer Kalmbach Publishing Co. Join me on the FSM Map
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                        South Aussie
                        • Member since
                          August 2003
                        • From: South Australia
                        Posted by South Aussie on Saturday, December 6, 2003 12:06 AM
                        Here in Aussie we have had a series of destroyers (could also have been corvettes - Not a naval person) named after rivers in Australia. The present fleet of destroyers are named after major cities. We also have had a series of patrol boats that names began with "A" ie arrow, attack etc.
                        Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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                        upnorth
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Canada / Czech Republic
                        Posted by upnorth on Friday, December 5, 2003 4:51 PM
                        McDonnell, prior to it's merger with Douglas, named its fighters from mythological sources: Phantom, Phantom II, Voodoo, Banshee, Goblin.

                        Many aircraft, regardless of manufacturer have gotten their names from mythology or the supernatural: Vampire, Vulcan, Hercules, Orion, Aurora, Nimrod, Wyvern, Valkyrie, Mirage...

                        Theres also been the pattern of naming aircraft after older period warriors or weapons, again, manufacturer not withstanding: Gladiator, Viking, Hoplite, Pirate, Crusader, Scimitar, Cutlass, Javelin, Sabre...

                        Lockheed tended toward celestial sounding names for several of their aircraft: Galaxy, Constellation, Starlifter, Starfighter, Starfire...

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                        SNOOPY
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, December 5, 2003 4:41 PM
                        The patterns for US warships is correct as posted earlier but with one added feature. The names came from the states or cities that gave added donations for the ships to be built. That little tid bit comes from a booklet that is given out for identification purposes. I got hold of one but I do not know how the person I got it from received his copy.
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                        cassibill
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Indiana, USA
                        Posted by cassibill on Friday, December 5, 2003 4:38 PM
                        I looked further yep they are edible too I wonder if all the British flower class covette were edible flowers??

                        cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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                        cassibill
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Indiana, USA
                        Posted by cassibill on Friday, December 5, 2003 4:31 PM
                        the glad and the nasturium are edible what about the other two?

                        cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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                        cassibill
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Indiana, USA
                        Posted by cassibill on Friday, December 5, 2003 4:15 PM
                        Those flower names look familiar like they were on a list of plants I saw somewhere.

                        cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 3:59 PM
                        Yeah apparently. Must've had a hippie in the Admiralty that thought of it.
                        Jeff
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                        cassibill
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Indiana, USA
                        Posted by cassibill on Friday, December 5, 2003 3:51 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by sulo

                        I'm currently reading a book about the war in the Atlantic and notice a lot of British Corvettes were given flower names : "Dianthus", "Nasturtium", "Gladiolus", "Polyanthus",etc, etc. Don't sound very threatening.
                        Jeff

                        Wasn't the name of the class the flower class?

                        cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 3:29 PM
                        I'm currently reading a book about the war in the Atlantic and notice a lot of British Corvettes were given flower names : "Dianthus", "Nasturtium", "Gladiolus", "Polyanthus",etc, etc. Don't sound very threatening.
                        Jeff
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 12:05 PM
                        Lockheed: P-3 Orion and C-5 Galaxy(not exactly a constellation but astar formation).

                        Russian Helos: Hind, Hokum, etc.
                        The Navy helos: Sea King, Sea Stallion, Seahawk, Sea Sprite, etc.
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                        wayne baker
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Medina, Ohio
                        Posted by wayne baker on Friday, December 5, 2003 11:38 AM
                        Shrike
                        Early Lockheed like Orion. Sirrus, Vega. I'm not sure when they got away from that pattern. Maybe with the Lightening?
                        Only Grumman fighters were cats. There was the Avenger torpedo bomber, the Guardian asw, among others.
                        Current Russian bombers are coded with B's, Backfire, Bear. The cargo a/c use C's, Candid, etc.


                         I may get so drunk, I have to crawl home. But dammit, I'll crawl like a Marine.

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                        shrikes
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Manila, Philippines
                        Posted by shrikes on Friday, December 5, 2003 10:13 AM
                        I dunno. "break right! there's a frisbee coming your way!" doesn't seem to evoke the necissary fear and panic... Big Smile [:D] how about naming them after assasins, criminals or psychopaths? "a unabomber is on your tail!" or "John Wilkes Booth incomming!"??? Smile [:)]
                        Blackadder: This plan's as cunning as a fox that used to be Professor of cunning at Oxford University but has now moved on and is working with the U.N at the high commission of cunning planning
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 9:20 AM
                        hey, will they ever have a AGM-42D frisbee ? or maybe a AIM-76C boomerang
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                        cassibill
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Indiana, USA
                        Posted by cassibill on Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:14 PM
                        If you don't want elected take interest in the office.

                        cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:35 PM
                        Puss Moth?!

                        Eeeewww!

                        -fish
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                        echolmberg
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Green Bay, WI USA
                        Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:23 PM
                        Wasn't it Grumman which named all their planes after cats?

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                        shrikes
                        • Member since
                          November 2003
                        • From: Manila, Philippines
                        Posted by shrikes on Thursday, December 4, 2003 11:48 AM
                        The US intel names for Russian fighters all start with "F": Fitter, Fishbed, Fagot, Flogger, Foxbat, Foxhound, Fulcrum, Flanker. i think there are other patterns for bombers, recon and others.

                        I dunno about Lockheed though, wayne... unless Blackbird and the U-2 (does it have a name?) are star groups. on the other hand, i might not be thinking too far back, like the Vega and Constalation...

                        Some missiles were named after animals (mostly birds): AIM-7 Sparrow, AGM-45 Shrike (hence the name), AIM-54 Pheonix (sort of a bird), AIM-9 Sidewinder, AGM-65 Maverick. AA-8 Aphid, AA-12 Adder.
                        A few anti-ship missles got named after thrown objects: Harpoon, Tomahawk.
                        Blackadder: This plan's as cunning as a fox that used to be Professor of cunning at Oxford University but has now moved on and is working with the U.N at the high commission of cunning planning
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                        wayne baker
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Medina, Ohio
                        Posted by wayne baker on Thursday, December 4, 2003 11:13 AM
                        Lockheed named their planes after star groups.

                         I may get so drunk, I have to crawl home. But dammit, I'll crawl like a Marine.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 11:12 AM
                        Never will see a tank named the Custer, or Fetterman for that matter.

                        QUOTE: If you think about it even before Northrup-- most Navy fighters were named with "cat"s....Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat...etc.....

                        Those were Grumman and Northrup bought Grumman after the Tomcat was designed
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                        Jeeves
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Saratoga Springs, NY
                        Posted by Jeeves on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:45 AM
                        If you think about it even before Northrup-- most Navy fighters were named with "cat"s....Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat...etc.....
                        Mike
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 8:33 AM
                        I don't know if this is a pattern per se, but I love the way the British named their ships: Invincible, Indomitable, Indefatigable, Warspite, Battle Axe, etc. The Japanese had interesting names. If you translate the names of their ships you get the IJN "Lotus Blossom on a calm lake" or something like that. Those patterns are interesting. Of all of the presidents we have recently named carriers after, it's interesting that they all served in the Army, not the Navy. John F Kennedy was the last president we named a carrier after who was a Naval Officer.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 8:13 AM
                        nope, not any more they arent. sub classes used to be named after fish. but thanks to some burocrat who correctly pointed out "fish dont vote" this tradition was broken. oh well. LA class subs still rock !
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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, December 4, 2003 8:10 AM
                        All the streets in my neighborhood back in the States were named after ships: Hornet, Wasp, Enterprise, Kensington, Shangri-la, Forrestal, and others I can't remember. That neighborhood used to be a part of NAS Glynnco, in Brunswick, Georgia.

                        Just an interesting naming pattern from my personal life!

                        And just for some intercultural exchange, streets rarely have names here in Japan.
                        ~Brian
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                        Ray Marotta
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Lyons Colorado, USA
                        Posted by Ray Marotta on Thursday, December 4, 2003 7:41 AM
                        I doubt any tank will be named after Custer because he got himself and his troops killed. All those other generals were successful. For another pattern, Boeing's
                        "Fortresses" . B-17 Flying Fortress, B-29 Super Fortress, B-52 Strato Fortress. Only the
                        B-47 jumped the pattern with "Strato-Jet".
                        In WWII, Battleships named after states, cruisers after cities, destrroyers after heros,
                        submarines after fish.
                        Ray

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 7:30 AM
                        wow, never thought of that. hmm, ill think about it while im in traffic
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                        U-96
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: United Kingdom
                        Posted by U-96 on Thursday, December 4, 2003 6:58 AM
                        British planes tended to be manufacturer-based -
                        Avro liked British cities - Lincoln, Lancaster, Manchester, York, Short and Handley Page followed suit with Sunderland, Halifax, Stirling etc.
                        Hawker went for weather, with Hurricane, Sea Fury, Tornado, Typhoon, Tempest - revived today with the modern Tornado and Typhoon.
                        de Havilland went for insects - Tiger Moth, Gypsy Moth, Hornet, Mosquito, Puss Moth

                        post war jets went for the "V" - Vampire, Venom, Vixen, Valiant, Vulcan and Victor

                        must be plenty more out there Smile [:)]
                        On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 6:03 AM
                        northrop names all its planes after felines on purpose. panther, tomcat..............

                        my homework keeps on piling up day after day, but after phone calls of a not-nice nature, it suddenly disappears...............
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                        djrost_2000
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
                        Posted by djrost_2000 on Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:44 AM
                        It's not a weird pattern, but it's one of the patterns out there.

                        DJ
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