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  • Member since
    October 2003
  • From: Southern California
Posted by ModelNerd on Monday, August 31, 2009 11:38 AM
 Good Duck wrote:

Thanks, I'll check out Silpak.

I'm using CAD program Rhino 4.0 right. Just got the seat around 4~6 wks ago, Learning  curve is low, unlike Autodesk Inventor. I test drive it and earning curve is very high, and cost ten x as much.

I'm using Rhino, too. Very good program, and relatively easy, although I still have a lot to learn. 

- Mark

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  • From: NYC
Posted by resinman on Monday, August 31, 2009 6:34 AM
I was talking about vinyl garage kits. I was at factory that produced screamin model kits and watched them cast and demold. They are metal molds. When the plastic is liquid they pour in metal molds. When they remove the plastic from molds it is soft,very hot and stretches out of mold and has to be cooled with water usually a hose on demolding table. Then the vinyl returns to shape of peice casted. I have never heard of rubber molds for vinyl kits .Should you find any information regarding that please share with us.
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Posted by Good Duck on Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:00 AM
resinman, I think you are talking about vinyl toys and not vinyl garage kits that I asking about. I know steel mold can cast 50,000 or more runs. Vinyl garage kits that I asking about only product in very low # like maybe 500 runs. Steel mold models have parting lines, but vinyl garage kit don't. So I'm thinking must be rubber molds. I just want to know what materials and how they removed the casting with out cutting the mold. All I can find in utube are resin casting , and no vinyl.
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Posted by Good Duck on Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:33 AM

Thanks, I'll check out Silpak.

I'm using CAD program Rhino 4.0 right. Just got the seat around 4~6 wks ago, Learning  curve is low, unlike Autodesk Inventor. I test drive it and earning curve is very high, and cost ten x as much.

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    August 2009
  • From: NYC
Posted by resinman on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:27 AM
Vinyl casting is very expensive and done with metal molds. This is usually done in a factory and not recommended for beginners unless you have the resources and cash to invest. I suggest polyurethene plastic(resin) and silicone molds. You can find tuturials online videos or take molding and casting classes at various art stores. Be forwarned its a messy job coupled with dealing with chemicals that may have allergic reactions or adverse health affects if you do not properly protect yourself when working . With that being said I recommend a 50/50 mix resin(ie. smooth-on 300 is the most common) and GI1000 silicone made by silicones inc.These companies both have websites and can be easily found on the google .
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  • From: Southern California
Posted by ModelNerd on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:28 AM

Greetings-

 I have done 3D, RTV mold makingand resin casting, but I have never cast vinyl.

I would recommend that you contact Dan over at Silpak, Inc. They're in California. I just met this guy and I do believe he knows everything there is to know about materials casting.

 Tel: 818-985-8850, Web: www.silpak.com

By the way, may I ask what program you are using for your 3D drawings? Just curious.

Regards-

- Mark

  • Member since
    March 2008
Need advices from garage kits makers
Posted by Good Duck on Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:54 PM
Just start doing some modeling in 3D. Planning to print it out the prototype, and then it cast in RTV rubber. I'm think the finish product will be in vinyl or resin, and I could really use some advices from you garage kit makers out there.

My "Q" are:

1) If I cast it in vinyl, how do I cast it so that there are no parting lines like how the Horizon production vinyl kits are?

2) What vinyl materials available(that you like best) to use for casting? I know how to cast in resin, but not vinyl.

3) Which rubber mold casting material are best, longer life time and cast better detail?

Can some please show me the light. Thank you so very much
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