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a rant about my modeling skills or lack of
Posted by DURR on Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:32 AM

i have been at it for 45 yrs and  today i saw a mig in fsm   with 250 parts in the gear bays  and over 200 more in the jet exausts  raised panel lines from putty                        a model  by a mastr modeler      yes   i know they put them in the magazine to inspire                                           but  i spent tons of money on pigments  paint some p/e and resin parts artist oils  to try  and try  and try again to make a real good (not great) but real good one  and   all i do is crap  sometimes seeing perfect makes me want to quit       does anyone else feel this way  at least sometimes or am i alone in these thoughts               SORRY for the rant  but i have been on  the edge lately

 

 

 

 

joe

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:36 AM

Nah, It sure does not make me want to quit. It does make me want to do better at whatever level I do tackle. I have no desire to have gear bays that have 250+ parts or opther such extravafgances. While I can eppreciate the work and craftsmanship put in to such a build, I am content to push my own work to ever improving levels. Spending excess case does not equate excess pleasure. When a particular build gets too intricate, its time to break out a "shake and bake" kit that builds quickly, fits well, and does not start sending out AMS vibes to dress it up. If your on edge, step back, do another favored rereation passtime and come back to the workbence when the modeling muse returns.

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:31 AM

Ditto Even though i am not averse to spending case of AM goodies for my kits, i know that doesn't give me an amazing build. When i see the builds you are talking about, it just inspires me to do better. I am happy if i see improvment. Each doesn't have to look better than the last, especially when i am useing a new technique, as long as i know its the best i can do and i am personally happy with it, thats all that counts.

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Posted by Harshman II on Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:19 AM

DURR

i have been at it for 45 yrs and  today i saw a mig in fsm   with 250 parts in the gear bays  and over 200 more in the jet exausts  raised panel lines from putty                        a model  by a mastr modeler      yes   i know they put them in the magazine to inspire                                           but  i spent tons of money on pigments  paint some p/e and resin parts artist oils  to try  and try  and try again to make a real good (not great) but real good one  and   all i do is crap  sometimes seeing perfect makes me want to quit       does anyone else feel this way  at least sometimes or am i alone in these thoughts               SORRY for the rant  but i have been on  the edge lately

 

 

 

 

joe

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Posted by Bronto on Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:15 AM

Don't give up.  You can buy all of the fancy pigments, AM parts, tools, etc, and mostly I find well done models are just done with the basics.  More parts/fancy paints schemes don't always equal a better done model.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:08 AM

Let me tell you what I do my friend. 

 

I have a few of those really expensive super amount of parts kits laying around.  They only have been opened to make sure everything is there and to stare in awe. 

For me, what gets built is the 3$ 5$ 1-$ (at most) kits I pick up at flea markets.  The older kits that require more work to make presentable.  Ones with flash, and big gaps, seams galore, all those problems.

I work at those and work at them, most end up tossed aside but the practice is what I am after with them.  Each one I build gets better and nicer.  Once I am done and feel ready for the big challenge it will come out nice.

 

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Posted by Mike F6F on Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:11 PM

I believe it is in the modeler's nature to see mostly, if not only, the flaws in his own work.  Only we know what we thought it would look like when finished, and how often does the completed model match how we imagined it at the start?

When we see someone else's work, unless we just finished, or probably currently building, the same kit, we won't know really how well that other modeler did.  We don't see it in pieces as the construction takes place, we don't see what was screwed up and needed to be fixed.

Of course, we can critically check the painting, weathering, etc., stuff we all do and judge that work compared to ours.  

But, will we catch the crooked decal, the kind of goof that looms so large to us on our current model? A similar goof that we can glance over without a second thought on someone else's build?

We should be our own harshest critics, that's a great way to learn.  At the same time, there's no need to beat ourselves up needlessly.   We may never know, but the guy that built that great model we saw in the magazine, may be kicking himself over some part of that build too.

Keep it fun.

Mike

 

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Posted by ACESES5 on Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:48 PM

durr: There is only one person you have to satisfy thats yourself I get to feeling that way too but I remind myself only person I have to satisfy is me. Sure there is always someone who can do a better job on the same model I just finished, but then I look at my collection and tell myself it suites me good enough for me.      ACESES5                     PropellerBig Smile

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Posted by GeorgeA on Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:54 AM

Two all too true stories:

I once built the Polar Lights Spider-Man. Spent hours getting the Kraven the Hunter guy just right. Perfect wood grain on the wooden staircase, etc, etc.

I had it on my bookcase for two weeks when my nephew took one look at it and said "What about the black webbing on his costume?"

I had totally spaced the black lines on the red part of the costume!!!

Another time I built a Spitfire - forget the manufacturer. Did a fair job on the cockpit. I'll admit I'm not good at super detail. But it was okay. Went on with the build ya da ya da ya da. Took off the masking tape to apply the canopy and  - you guessed it - no cockpit!!!!

I had left the darn thing in the old model box I use to store things as they dry!!!!

I REALLY wish I was making these stories up but, alas they are all too true. And they but the most outstanding of my many mistakes. I've torn more decals and slopped more paint than I care to remember and I'm still at it.

Be calm and carry on

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Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:15 AM

I, too, have been intimidated by what I see in mags and top modelers, but that has gone away.  As mentioned above, I am my biggest critic.  I now just build for the fun of it.  My ego was bolstered a bit a few months ago when I entered two kits in a contest.  I was reluctant, as I never did it before.  Both kits placed...I took a 1st and 2nd.  I was stunned.  It will probably be a while before I enter another kit, as I build for pleasure. 

So, self satisfaction is my goal....um, er, did I say that right?  Embarrassed

Hutch

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:24 AM

Durr, take yourself lightly. It's a release of tension kind of deal, not a stress producer. One reason why I never aspire to enter a contest.

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Posted by GeorgeA on Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:37 PM

Remembered. The Spitfire was Revell. 14 bucks at my nearest brick and mortar retailer. I did another - with the cockpit - to put on the shelf. The empty one is hanging from the ceiling. The Spidey fix was simple. Dull Cote scratches off easily with a dental tool and a drafting pen and ink did the job. Though the lines are a little thin. 

I'm not intimidated by the better modelers I see at shows and in magazines. I've tried super detailing and it just wasn't fun.So I do what I want now and admire the work of others.

Like I tell my students; Life is for learning (Yeah, I know it's a Joni Mitchell lyric. Showing my age here.).

Be calm and carry on. 

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Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:04 PM

GeorgeA

Remembered. The Spitfire was Revell. 14 bucks at my nearest brick and mortar retailer. I did another - with the cockpit - to put on the shelf. The empty one is hanging from the ceiling. The Spidey fix was simple. Dull Cote scratches off easily with a dental tool and a drafting pen and ink did the job. Though the lines are a little thin. 

I'm not intimidated by the better modelers I see at shows and in magazines. I've tried super detailing and it just wasn't fun.So I do what I want now and admire the work of others.

Like I tell my students; Life is for learning (Yeah, I know it's a Joni Mitchell lyric. Showing my age here.).

Be calm and carry on. 

George....well said.

Hutch

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:32 PM

Maybe you've got your priorities wrong here (in all due respect and in no way meaning to be a smart*ss)....

Modelling is about having fun. Making a great model in the process is a (very) welcome side effect IMHO. The moment your models frustrate you because they are not of a standard you want them to be you are slightly off track.

Different angle:

I like playing guitar too. Gives me great fun and satisfaction. Hearing a recording of one of the greats and realizing i am never ever going to be playing that good does not make me want to smash my guitars to pieces out of anger (at myself).

It's a hobby we all share and to me personally hobby equals fun and not work or competition to name just two words.

Just my thoughts reading your rant. I do understand the frustration you must be feeling but as said before; dont take it so hard.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM

I align with what Kermit and others have said, Durr. I like to look at works like those in the mags but to simplify how I take it, think of a racecar driver.
A racecar driver, I ain't. But I still drive a car and that's just fine.
A master modeler, I ain't. But I still build models and I enjoy them. I know my own limitations and I'll likely never get to the point of being willing to invest (yes, invest. We only have so many hours on this earth) as many hours in a project as it takes to put 250 parts into a wheel well. Not meaning to ridicule those who do but I'm proud to say I have a bit more of a life than that.

Decide what it is you want to accomplish with your modeling. Master? Fun? Good enough? Whatever it is, go for it. But if you decide you want to build those 1000 hour AMS monsters take a deep breath and get into a zen-like state. That level of modeling is more like a martial art than a hobby.

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Posted by Subhuman1 on Monday, September 13, 2010 12:29 AM

Money is definitely not the key. Try switching subjects, for a bit. Ie: try scratching some sort of Sci Fi/Space Ship out of nothing, or the parts box, and forget the rivet counting for a while, and just relax and enjoy the process, instead of worrying about the result.

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Posted by DURR on Monday, September 13, 2010 2:33 PM

thanks to all  for your words     i will continue to buld at my crap level  i just won't read the mag. anymore  as i  said in my orig. post i am on the edge lately          soooo...... the next time someone is scratch builing a turret for a sherman tank out of wet noodles with 400 rivets cut out of the hair on a flies back    don't remind me

 

again thanks

joe

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