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any tips on building 1/48 house?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:44 PM

Plastruct has sheets of bricks, blocks and various stone in their catalog, that you might also find useful. 

Ditto, as well as Evegreen having vacuformed sheets of block, brick, & tile in various sryles and scales, that can be used as walls for cobblestone streets & sidewalks..

Don't sweat the scale differences in O vs 1/48th either... They're no enough to matter unless a figure is actually standing in a doorway, and also, it's typical in diorama construction to have the building's windows and doors get progressively smaller as the builing gets higher.. It's simply a technique used to cut down on material, and also, the eye is used to seeing openings get smaller as altitude increases, carrying this illusion over to the viewer of the diorama... Again, this only works if there's no figures in the windows or doors..

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM

I agree that scratchbuilding can be more cost-effective and more fun, than buying something ready-made that you'll have to track down.

My own tip--Plastruct has sheets of bricks, blocks and various stone in their catalog, that you might also find useful.  So for example, you might make a battle-damaged section of a wall, where the Putz, the plaster, has been damaged to reveal brick or stone underneath, the molded styrene sheet works very well in that application.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:46 AM

wow chucky, sounds ambitious! Yes

Have you done your own buildings before? Whatever technique you use, I'd have to suggest you start with a small house or cottage before overwhelming yourself. Good luck & have fun with it - post up some pics even as you are just starting, some of the pros around here can probably throw some tips at you as they see it coming to life.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:35 AM

Why waste your limited modeling time on scratchbuilding this, when resin companies can do better and save you a lot of work?

Dunno about him, but I'll answer as why I do..

I don't have a deadline for building dioramas, I can take all the time I want... Plus, I prefer building over buying, as then it's mine, and also because every kit structure looks like every other kit structure... The "work" is part of building a model, as the structures are part of the model, same as a drop-tank or bombload is part of an aircraft model...  The entire diorama is a model, and the things on it are actually sub-assemblies... Vehicles, figures, buildings, foliage, trees, roads/streets, sidewalks, the very terrain itself... All sub-assemblies...

Last, but certainly not least, making your own structures is FAR cheaper...  A 1/35th four-story-half-block facade in basswood and plaster  would cost me around 6-12.00 in materials...  Good luck finding resin/plaster/mixed-media pre-fab structures for THAT price, lol...

 

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Posted by Gaston on Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:28 PM

 

  Why waste your limited modeling time on scratchbuilding this, when resin companies can do better and save you a lot of work? Recently a company called "Custom Dioramics" did 1/48th European constructions, both urban and rural, and I can attest to the high quality of what they did, not mere demolished walls in some cases, but full roofs intact buildings facades at about 3/4 depth. They were even available at Squadron for a while... You could even combine several sets to potentially create full depth two street facades constructions...

  It is true what I saw from them was nowhere near as tall as the photo provided (which I did not initially see), but if you have two intact facades as tall as this it will be a bit hard to even see the street from above...

  Facades this tall are an absolutely  huge piece of work....

 The OP question was a bit confusing to me as to what he meant: Sorry for my English: Two rows of  "flats"  suggested to me rows of separated bungalows or one-story houses... Hem... European wartime streets are typically either solid continuous sidewalk-butting facades with few interruptions (urban-like, even in a very small village), or just isolated country houses very far from the street, sometimes clustered on a steep slope or hollow.

   There are really no old-style WWII European streets with "rows" of separate habitations: That is simply not typical of how things were done there until much later in the 60s or 70s (but is very typical of North America)...

    I have lived in a small French village of about 2000 people, and I can tell you that as soon as you get into this very small village it is continuous solid facades just like in a large city... Outside of the "core" you get widely-spaced houses that are sometimes "clustered" to present yet more continuous facades, or, usually if it is post WWII, it can be a bungalow, but usually well away from the street and town center, with a large front lawn and rear garden. 

   A useful point to note is the importance, in many old-style small French villages, of all sorts of waist (or head) height very rough and thick looking stone walls, usually for "hiding" a front lawn garden or field, which are often the main thing flanking a kilometer long street, the isolated house being well away from the street, unlike the solid continuous facades which are almost always butting directly on the  sidewalk. Note the sidewalks do not have the "segmented" look they have in North America: They are smooth continuous medium gray asphalt, often with "harder" edge of cement or stone...

   "Rows of flats" are perhaps better described as "four or six stories facades", because in reality there could be anything in them: The back end of a multi-story store, offices, banks; The term "flats" seems a bit too specific for what they are...

   The habitable roof photo provided seems more typical to me of very upscale Paris, and would be very complicated to build from scratch, in addition to being usually a sixth or seventh floor... An absolutely  massive project!

   Also, be wary of O scale buildings as a substitute for true 1/48th scale: "O" scale for the British, and maybe for most of Europe, is really 1/43, as with the metal cars, and this is really what dominates what is available for rail scenery as far as I can see... It can do if you are careful, but the doors will look tall...

   I hope this helps. Good luck with your project!

   Gaston

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:37 PM

Ahh.. Multi-story buildings...

Typically, were I  to tackle this type of building, I'd build the entire thing up from basswood (not balsa) sheet and strip, doing the roofs as panels, and then casting shingle sections to finish them off...  Hit the RC aircraft section of your LHS for basswood, also, many craft stores carry it... 

As for the walls, Shep Paine has a great technique outlined in his book, How to Build Dioramas that will show you how to make walls with windows and doors without having to cut them from a solid sheet, and covers multi-story buildings& roof-types as well... If you're ever gonna buy only ONE modeling "How To" book, that one's the bible... 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by j.edi on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:16 PM

chucky17

Hi im going to have a  base with two blocks of flats going both sides. Its the day when france got their country back So what would i need for doing this. how would i do the roofs.

 

thanks

You could do a Google image search for "second empire architecture"

Common French rooflines in the cities ~WWII are Mansard roofs w/ dormers, like below:

- hope this helps!

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Posted by chucky17 on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:25 PM

sorry the link did not work

here it its

 

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Posted by chucky17 on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:23 PM

sorry what im wanting to do is have a two rows of flats on each side.

Heres a link to what its sort of based on. But not bombed just normal

 

compon

any idea of what i could use for civilians?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, November 29, 2010 3:02 PM

Said he wanted tips on building one, not buying one, Hawk... Cool

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Monday, November 29, 2010 2:53 PM

Look around for some O Gauge model railroading buildings of the era and area...O Gauge is = 1:48 scale. You may find a cottage kit that is affordable or someone might have plans for one.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, November 29, 2010 2:49 PM

chucky17

Hi im going to have a  base with two blocks of flats going both sides. Its the day when france got their country back So what would i need for doing this. how would i do the roofs.

 

thanks

You need to be a bit more specific about what you want to do...  Roofs are fairly easy, but there's a bunch of different types and each has it's own little quirks.. For instance, are you doing a farmhouse or a city home? Thatched, tiled, or shingled? Damaged or undamaged?

Post a picture of one you're thinking about and it'll go a long way in helping us help you out...

Would you be doing one like this one from "Inglorious Basterds"?

 

This'd be the easiest, a simple gabled one &1/2-story farmhouse, circa 1940...

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Monday, November 29, 2010 1:26 PM

Eh? Huh?

they loose it AGAIN? Stick out tongue

tut-tut!

Look for pics of Patton, (then much, .... much later) DE-Gaulle entering Paris for ideas,

Ditto, the Film " The Jackal", for colour refs

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any tips on building 1/48 house?
Posted by chucky17 on Monday, November 29, 2010 10:34 AM

Hi im going to have a  base with two blocks of flats going both sides. Its the day when france got their country back So what would i need for doing this. how would i do the roofs.

 

thanks

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