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  • Member since
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  • From: Ambridge PA
Can't open my paint bottle
Posted by ThomasfrmPA on Friday, February 10, 2012 8:23 PM

Seriousl !, Is there any way to safely open a paint bottle without breaking it?

I have a few acrylic , as well as enamel 1/2 ounce glass bottled that are quit stubborn and I really don't want to break them while trying t open Zip it!

 

 

Thomas

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Posted by 89er on Friday, February 10, 2012 8:31 PM

what I do is give the lids good hard taps all the way around by hitting it on the edge of a table, if that doesn't work use a good pair of pliers

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  • From: Ambridge PA
Posted by ThomasfrmPA on Friday, February 10, 2012 8:36 PM

Yeah, I have tried pliers  and all I am doing is mangling the lid. I am bummed. It's the color I want too, aircraft grey

Thomas

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Posted by qmiester on Friday, February 10, 2012 8:41 PM

Run very hot water over the cap for a few seconds  - use cloth over the cap and open (boiling or near boiling water iseven better) - the heat of the water will soften the dried paint allowing you to twist the top of safely. 

Quincy
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Posted by ThomasfrmPA on Friday, February 10, 2012 8:52 PM

Eureka !  Bottler is now open and I will clean the lid and top of the bottle to ensure this will not happen again !

 

I used a lighter, the bottle started smoking, then used a pair of channel locks  and it came right open !

Thanks gmeister !

Thomas

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Posted by TomZ2 on Friday, February 10, 2012 9:04 PM

Use this:

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, February 10, 2012 9:15 PM

ThomasfrmPA

Eureka !  Bottler is now open and I will clean the lid and top of the bottle to ensure this will not happen again !

 

I used a lighter, the bottle started smoking, then used a pair of channel locks  and it came right open !

Thanks gmeister !

Yepper, I've  always used a lighter as well for metal-topped bottles, like Testor's and Testor's ModelMaster Enamels(Cue "Safety-Na zi Speech" about bottles bursting into flames and burning houses down, killing all within 12-block radius-Stick out tongue )

 VERY hot water for plastic-topped bottles like Tamiya...  Seems like no matter what, no matter how careful one is about cleaning the lids and threads,  you'll always need to do that sooner or later...

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, February 10, 2012 9:40 PM

I have a heavy duty shop vise bolted to my bench, and a set of rubber jaw magnetic attachments from MicroMark.  I snug the bottle into the vise, between the rubber jaws, and twist the cap off with a pliers.  Works every time, never broke a bottle. 

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by qmiester on Friday, February 10, 2012 9:59 PM

Hans, I usually use a lighter but as you noted, the "Safety-Gehiemestatspoletzei" would probably descend upon me in full force  so I didn't mention it - (Aren't they the same folks the push the line that if 1 part per quadrillion of metthyl chloride or a like chemical is any where within 10,000 klicks of me I'll die immediatly if not sooner?)

Quincy
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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, February 10, 2012 10:21 PM

I had that problem recently with a bottle of Tamiya acylic. I tried the old fashioned "running hot water over it"...Maybe the water wasn't hot enough? Or, I shoulda used boiling water? Then, I broke out my trusty vice grips and very carefully...stripped the lid. What finally worked was going around the lid with a small screwdriver, prying it along. I guess some paint had gotten in the grooves.

-Tom

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, February 10, 2012 11:16 PM

All I do is invert the bottle, and with an eyedropper squirt a few drops of lacquer thinner between the bottle and the cap, wait a minute or two, and unscrew it with my bare hands (most of the time - rarely do I need pliers of any kind).

Mike

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, February 10, 2012 11:30 PM

ruddratt

All I do is invert the bottle, and with an eyedropper squirt a few drops of lacquer thinner between the bottle and the cap, wait a minute or two, and unscrew it with my bare hands (most of the time - rarely do I need pliers of any kind).

Ditto  That`s exactly what I do and it works for all types of paints/lids.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:20 AM

CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN the lid & bottle threads.....

Then Use Cling-film/Saran Wrap on the bottle covering the top & threads before putting the lid on...

Then switch to Vallejo paint with their drip bottles...

 

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:00 AM

go to the cheapest Dollar store type of place around you,,,,,get a box of sealable sandwich bags, cut into squares slightly larger than your lid diameter

you will now have a stack of squares that will let you seal glass paint bottles the same way that chemistry students do,,,,,except you will have to capture the plastic sheet (they can stretch their sheets over the bottle without a steel cap)

then, find old style plastic soft drink lids from Pepsi company products (new lids since Nov 2011 no longer work), those double seal on MM bottles

Lifecolor and Talon acrylic lids will both swap onto MM/Floquil bottles also,,,,,both have a "permament seal method" in their lid design, LifeColor is molded with a sealing ridge, Talon has a "sealing cone" part in the lid

sandwich bags work better then wrap, because they are slightly thicker, I have had both saran wrap and aluminum foil cut off around the bottle rim and fall into the pain

hth

Rex

 

edit to add: If you say "but, I don't want to spend half my remaining lifetime collecting LifeColor lids",,,,,,then just get half LifeColor and half "glass bottle brand" paints,,,,,,you will have some that are easy to get open because they are plastic lids on the glass bottles,,,,and some that are easy to open because they plastic bottles with steel lids with a liner,,,,if using steel lids with a liner, get the thickest clear plastic bag product you can find and cut lid-fitting discs out as inserts

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:29 AM

That is one reason I like the little Testors square bottles. I cut a little tool out of a piece of 1/8 aluminum sheet. It has a square notch in the end to match the cross-section of the bottles. I grab the top with pliers and slip the glass in the notch, and I can always turn the lid off.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:38 AM

or... buy a new one. Wink

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Posted by GreenThumb on Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:32 AM

As Mike and Len stated I also turn the bottle upside down and pour lacquer thinner with an eye dropper into the seam between the lid and bottle and let it sit. After an hour or so it almost always comes off.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by GreenThumb on Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:35 AM

Another tip I have used with good results to prevent this......put a drop of Badger Needle Juice or similar airbrush lubricant onto your finger and rub it around the threads of the lid after it has been cleaned.

This will not allow the paint to adhere as strongly to the lid. Wink

Mike

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:53 AM

GreenThumb

As Mike and Len stated I also turn the bottle upside down and pour lacquer thinner with an eye dropper into the seam between the lid and bottle and let it sit. After an hour or so it almost always comes off.

I'm just not that patient, lol... If I can't get the lid off in a couple minutes I tend to use the Hammer-hammer...  

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:00 PM

haha,,,,,,,yup

thump!!!,,,,,and filter out the glass particles with old nylons,,,,,,,into a new bottle and cap

for some reason,,,,,I can picture this very clearly, Hans

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:15 PM

Starting with a new bottle, first thing I do is wipe the lid clean. After that, I stir with a "T" shaped bit of sprue in the Dremel....never shake....never have a stuck lid.....never have wasted building time!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:33 PM

TarnShip

haha,,,,,,,yup

thump!!!,,,,,and filter out the glass particles with old nylons,,,,,,,into a new bottle and cap

for some reason,,,,,I can picture this very clearly, Hans

Actually, I just punch a hole in the cap, Tarn, lol..

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:25 PM

now, where is the fun in that??

not to mention the satisfaction,,,,,,,"I am Jarhead,,,,,thump,,,,,,,me got paint open"

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:33 PM

If I was a Marine, I probably woulda just chewed it open... Wink

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:40 PM

Hans von Hammer

If I was a Marine, I probably woulda just chewed it open... Wink

Yup, that's what I'd do.... Stick out tongue I love the feel of metal between my clenching teeth.....

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by ACESES5 on Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:00 PM

quit a few years ago my kids got me a set of Sear Craftsmen strap wrenches for a fathers day gift these are great for forzen jar caps. Put the rubber strap around the cap get a good grip on bottle push handle cap off.    ACESES5                       ON BENCH ACADEMY 1/35 M3 GRANT

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Posted by MSgtMJ62 on Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:15 PM

When I do get a stubborn cap that won't come off, I just place the paint jar in a small glass or a coffee cup, and run the tap water till its steaming hot and let the jar sit in that for a few minutes.  Then just use the pliers and twist it off.     Then clean the lid out before I close it back up.

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:02 PM

I know my ball cap is too small to read in my avatar on here

It says "once a Marine, always a Marine"

That is why I make so many dumb Jarhead jokes

but, on this topic, all kidding aside,,,,,,I have actually broken paint bottles trying to get them open,,,,,and even cut the "holding hand" once, while prying the cap off with pliers

Now, in my old dotterage,,,,,,,,,if a cap is that stuck,,,,,,that paint is probably as old as my son, lol (he was born in '79, the year I got out of the Corps)

So,,,,,I just don't play with it if it wants to be that stuck,,,,,,I use it for "shooting a basket" into the ole round file,,,,,,and either pull out another bottle with a newer date on the office dot I put on top of them all,,,,,,,,or get a new one soon at the paint store

as expensive as hobby paint is,,,,,,,it reallllllllllly stings if you get that paint carrier fluid in a fresh glass cut on your hand

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Posted by Ray Marotta on Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:22 PM

Try dipping the enamel bottle cap down into lacquer thinner and let it sit for a while.  I've never used acrylics but, I'm guessing the same treatment as the enamel bottles but using denatured alcohol would work.

Good luck

 

Ray

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Posted by 40.mm on Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:37 AM

The Hammer hammer -chuckle -chew it off -big chuckle ... you guys are killing me now my face hurts --Thanks !

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