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  • Member since
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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:16 PM

I did learn by doing on those, Hans,,,,,,,,the Monogram 1/72 Tigercat kit

The first one, I added the nose weight, and filled in behind the engines,,,,,,I read at the time that was enough, so I followed that advice,,,,,,,that one was a "tail drifter",,,,,most of the time, it sat on the nosegear, but, everyyyy once in a while, it would be on its tail, like a real aircraft waiting for fuel,,,,,,,I drilled the nosewheel and screwed it down to a base,,,,,,,it wasn't one of the "fit in the set right here" aircraft, anyway

now, I fill up everywhere I can,,,,,,,and on that one model,,,,,,,I would like something finer to really pack it in there,,,,,,,especially if I get the Aoshima Tigercat, I have never worked with that molding,,,,,,I don't want to "relearn what the Monogram taught me"

I could just glue or screw down all models to a base, but, I made the shelves the base material,,,,,,I have to be able to move VF-132 and VF-137 apart in order to add the VA-135 Skyraider in between them, for example,,,,,,,I sure can't just Park each finished aircraft in its final slot on the shelves, lol

Rex

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:43 AM

about the only aircraft I have ever had trouble finding enough space for the weight required was the Tigercat

Did you weight anything aft of the cockpit and in the nacelles?

Lotta people forget about the nacelles..

That was my solution.. Lots of wasted space in that bird.. 

I didn't build any dams, just taped the fuselage together and poured in the shot... Then, a couple judicious shots of CA and done.. Just watch the capillary action when you add the CA...

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  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:58 AM

You could condiser casting the nose yourself in resin. I had to do that on a 1/72 Su-47 Berkut and cant imagine it will ever tail sit now.

Notice to self there make sure you use the right glue for the nose weights (sure I'm not the first to do that)

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:10 AM

I already "build dams for BB's",,,,,,I was thinking that the "liquid weight" material was actually very tiny balls of dense metal,,,,,,which would be a help with packing more weight into the same volume I am using now, without that wasted air space that is in there

so, maybe I need to find the name of the actual "tiny metal" product I was thinking of before

the whole exercise is probably wasted effort for me,,,,,,about the only aircraft I have ever had trouble finding enough space for the weight required was the Tigercat,,,,,,,and the principle with those is simple,,,,,"refabricate everything on the model forward of the main gear from lead", haha

Rex

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:14 AM

mitsdude

Looks like Hobby Lobby is one of their distributors.

Have to look.. Maybe, if it's priced right to begin with, I'll use a 40%er and try it once...  But it really looks to me as if it's just another material, and it actually adds work that conventional weighting-methods....

In it's defense, for Model Railroaders and R/C modelers, I think it's a good idea, though.. I used to do railroads, and the issue of quickly weighting rolling stock was manifold..

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  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:56 AM

I have used the Rocket Plastic glue they sell and its very very thin but does work well. They have stands at a few model shows in the UK and seemed knowledgable when I spoke to them. Cant talk about the other products but the one I tried worked fine

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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Posted by mitsdude on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:43 AM

Looks like Hobby Lobby is one of their distributors.

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:36 AM

I predict that there will be a reviewer or build-artical author that uses it within the next three issues of FSM...

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:30 AM

Can't abide the "Instant This" kind of modeling materials.. Got ripped off with the "Liquid Mask" from Microscale, and never have used anything like that again..... Gimme a bottle of Censored'n rubber cement...

 I need fishing sinkers, or a bag of shot/box of BBs...  This "Instant Razzamatazz" stuff that's popping up eveywhere is specfically designed to separate you money from your bank account...

Go scrounge some old balance weights from the local tire shop.. Generally, they're free..Wink

But for you guys that're inclined to buy it anyway, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtfsWZ7LnvU  "Liquid Gravity will create a feeling of weight, allowing it sit better on a diorama or a base"... Bull-Censored... 

Warning... You will have to make some *gasp* scratch-built parts to use it, as it's two-parts, one powder, one liquid, and you have to make "Dams" in the fuselage to hold it...  Good luck...Wink

cml
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  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Monday, June 11, 2012 6:42 PM

Yep - that Liquid Gravity caught my attention too.

Looks like a great idea - not sure how heavy it would be though.

I mean, sounds good for hard to reach areas and small planes - but what about large 1/48s?  I've got some that take up to 50g of sinkers to keep down, at that rate, i imagine i'd chew through the stuff in no time.

In any event, i'm keeping my eye out for it - i'll definitely buy some if any of the LHSs around here get it in stock.

Chris

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Monday, June 11, 2012 1:15 PM

that nose weight looked very interesting,,,,,,,I want to get some and play with it

like you, a couple of the other items caught my interest,,,,,,,I need to get online and place a "sample order" one day soon

the Lady is getting a bit tired of my experiments, though,,,,,I have stacks of those "hey, try this out, it is neat" items,,,,I bought them, tried them,,,,,and there they sit, lol,,,,,,I keep on just doing things the way I already did them,,,,I must be an old dog, or something

Rex

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  • From: Austin, TX
Deluxe Materials
Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, June 11, 2012 11:14 AM

Anybody else seen the coverage of Deluxe Materials in the latest FSM? Some of their products look fantastically compelling - especially Liquid Gravity, which sounds like "nose weight in a bottle". 

Just curious if anyone's got real-world experience with any of their stuff.

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