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No F-106 Delta Dart in the Vietnam War, Why?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:26 AM

The USAF lost 15 F-102s in Vietnam serivce.. One in air-to-air combat to a MiG-21's Atoll missile... The remaining 14 losses were to enemy ground-fire and accidents.. The two-seat TF-102A was also used in the Fast-FAC role by the 509th FIS in 1964.  The type was withdrawn when the "Beagle Threat" (Il-28s) never materialized..

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Monday, June 18, 2012 11:48 PM

I'm not interested in modern jets because they lack "personality."  I love the Vietnam-era jets.  Each of them is highly unique. 

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Posted by TarnShip on Monday, June 18, 2012 9:30 PM

I do not know, Glenn

I only study the Air Force equipment "in passing", or when it is closely related to USN/USMC

As a consequence of that,,,,the only "reverse Mig kill" records I have are the losses listed in such books as the "Tonkin Gulf" by Francillion

I had to cut the herd down in kits, books and decals,,,,,but, sometimes I do miss a few of those "off topic" books

Rex

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, June 18, 2012 9:05 PM

Rex, did they lose any 102's to enemy action?

Glenn

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Posted by TarnShip on Monday, June 18, 2012 8:10 PM

Chris, when you read up about the Dart's time in VietNam,,,,,they should have talked about the Dart's intended mission, and the fact that it was not needed all that long to defend the air base,,,,,,the Thuds and Phantoooms could do that just fine

so, when the 102's went home, there was no need for the 106's,,,,and the Puzzle Palace Pencil Pushers were constantly afraid that our fleet of Voodoos, Darts, and Daggers were going to have to fend off the Bears if we "did too well in the bush"

Double duty for the Thuds and Phantoooms made more sense,,,,,send most out for air to mud, some as MigCap,,,,some on instant scramble alert (or whatever the USAF called their Hot Pad guys)

you picked a great era to model, there,,,,,,,,,,there is a constant variety of weapons and aircraft,,,multiple US services to do,,,,,and many foreign services in the bargain,,,,,,you could build for years just trying to get "one of each" done

Rex

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Posted by Centerdeck2 on Monday, June 18, 2012 8:03 PM

Wrong mission i guess.  I think it was more of a strategic defender against soviet bombers.  But then, everything i know about it came from wiki so i could be way off.

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No F-106 Delta Dart in the Vietnam War, Why?
Posted by Chrisk-k on Monday, June 18, 2012 7:55 PM

I've been building my stash for the Vietnam-era jets.  I've done research and all the sources indicate that the F-106 was never used in the Vietnam war.  However, none of them discuss the reason.  Does anyone know?  I mean...pilots loved the Delta Dart and it was better than the F-102.  So, how come it was never used in the war?

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