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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, October 15, 2012 5:11 AM

TarnShip

Borg, I have forgotten (if I ever knew),,,,,has there ever been a Dutch plastic model company?

I seem to remember a couple of decal companies from there,,,,,,,,but, it just struck me that to you, ALL plastic model companies are foreign (or almost all)

You are right. The Netherlands never had an mainstream model company. The closest we came was Wingscale/WingXL. But there is a manufacturer of 1/48 resins models active, Geromy http://www.geromybv.nl/epages/61575298.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61575298/Categories

But it where Airfix and Revell (Germany) that dominated the toystores when I grew up in the 1980's.

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Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:59 PM

thanks, Stik,,,,,I missed it

I will "run over there" now, and take a look

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:25 PM

Yup, the Low Countries are surrounded by those "foreign" model companies.

(semi O/T) Hey Tarn, did catch my update on the (foreign named) Tah-Mee-yah primer thread about the Goon-zee Mr Surfacer? Good stuff!

Now to a Dutchman "zee" has a completely different pronunciation and meaning, more similar to a German than to us Yanks with our multicultural/multiethnic take on the King's English.

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:13 PM

Borg, I have forgotten (if I ever knew),,,,,has there ever been a Dutch plastic model company?

I seem to remember a couple of decal companies from there,,,,,,,,but, it just struck me that to you, ALL plastic model companies are foreign (or almost all)

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:11 PM

Airfix, Heller, and Revell Deutschland Borg?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:55 PM

Hans von Hammer

(...)

 Figure if I ever have to live in the countries that the imports are from, I'll have to learn the langauge, and THEN I'll check pronunciation of the names..  (...)

 

I live in a very small country (the Netherlands) where we speak a language that nodbody else understands (Dutch). So I have had to learn English, French and German in school. Which comes handy if you need to pronounces foreign company names! Stick out tongue

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:21 PM

Marine Artllery? Thought that was the US Navy.. J/K.. Yeah, I saw a lot of Marine Arty training at Ft Sill back in the day..  One of the Engineer Companies I was attached to used to supply them with the rocks...

As Frederick the Great  said: "Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl..." Wink

Then there was Napoleon Bonaparte who once said,  "Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . ."

And the ever-famous "Anonymous" (who must have been a cannon-cocker).. "Artillerymen believe the world consist of two types of people; other Artillerymen and targets."

Wink

Back O/T..

I tend to anglicize "non-US" manufacturers... Tamiya, (Tah-MY-Ah), Hasegawa (Hass-uh-GOW-wuh), Zvezda (ZVEhZ-duh), but I also managed to put the accent on the first syllable of Revell (REV-el) for many years, until I was actually about 17 or so... 

 Figure if I ever have to live in the countries that the imports are from, I'll have to learn the langauge, and THEN I'll check pronunciation of the names..  Meanwhile, since I'm an American, I'll use the main language of the USA..

Spanish...

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:34 PM

hahaha, Stik

you and Hans both made the Ssgt laugh out loud for real,,,she had a brother in Marine Artillery

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:39 PM

Hans von Hammer

"old artillery pukes aren't all concussed, they just type that way",,,,,,

That'll work.. Sounds like me, lol..

Along with, "Old Artillerymen never die... They just receive 'End of Mission'."...  ( Pretty sure that'll get ripped-off and wind up in the Ft Sill Museum Gift Shop...)

...talking out in the field today. Hi' what's your name?

"My name's Bob Fliber!"

 Bob, what do you do?

 "I'm in artillery!"

Thank you, Bob. Can we play anything for you?

 "Anything! Just play it loud! Okay?""

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:16 AM

I always love these discussions about "how to pronounce foreign company names". Maybe that is because I am a foreigner.... ;-P

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:28 AM

"old artillery pukes aren't all concussed, they just type that way",,,,,,

That'll work.. Sounds like me, lol..

Along with, "Old Artillerymen never die... They just receive 'End of Mission'."...  ( Pretty sure that'll get ripped-off and wind up in the Ft Sill Museum Gift Shop...)

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, October 12, 2012 4:42 PM

I'd say this is much like the old expression from back in my youth regarding Japanese motorcycles.  It was common to see "UJM" in cycle rags back then, meaning Universal Japanese Motorcycle.  It expressed the idea that Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki were all pretty much the same thing.  Of course, everyone knows that nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a red headed girl (tip 'o the hat to Richard Thompson!)


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Posted by Kugai on Friday, October 12, 2012 4:30 PM

famvburg

ISTR reading somewhere years ago when Pavla kits were common, that Pavla is pronounced Paula, as there is no Vee sound. I'm guessing Zvezda is actually pronounced Zwezda.

As a Trekkie, I can't help but ask if they make kits of nuclear wessels?

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, October 12, 2012 4:25 PM

lol

been saving this line for you for a while now

it goes with the "old Grapes never die..........." line I posted while you were gone

"old artillery pukes aren't all concussed, they just type that way",,,,,,I don't know why I made it, I must have been thinking of you one day?

yeah, real life can get in the way sometimes,,,,,but, it still beats the alternative,,,,,,,,someday I will type out my mad scramble attempts to build models, after finding out that Anne is allergic to almost every chemical we normally use to build and paint models with

it took me two years to find replacements for almost everything, that is how I ended up with Acrylic paints

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:51 PM

Thanks fer the welcome back.. Yeah, the effin' real world got in m' way for about nine weeks there.... Was livin' in a house my boss bought to flip, and working on it..

I wouldn't know an F-4J from a Charlie, Bravo, or Delta Tarn..   And I grew up on a couple AF Bases, had Phantoms in the pattern day and night, right over my house and, occasionally, Dad was drivin' one.. (I CAN tell an F-4E from a recon-bird though)

If I were a Jet guy, I'd likely have a Navy Phantom and and AF one, and that'd be it, lol..  Props are another thing, lol..

But don't take "Tamigawa" as an insult.. It's just a word used to encompass all the import (real and perceived) and to ID the "generation" of them, much the same as "Revellogram" generally depicts a modeling "era" as well..

"Tamigawa" sounds better than "Over-priced Over-engineered imported kits"... OVPRICOVENGIMP  (pronounced Ahv-prik-Uh-ven-gimp) kits...

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:37 PM

that, I can take,,,,,,,it is no different than the two car make fans going at it before a race

good to see you posting more,,,,,,you were pretty quiet for a while there, glad you are back

"truth be told" department,,,,,,I couldn't enjoy this hobby without my Monogram Tigercats,  the E model Skyraiders to convert with, or even my Monogram Phantoms, I just bought an old, broken down box, used Mono F-4J at a show,,,I have no idea when it will reach the front of the "build me" line,,,,,,but, it is in it

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:21 PM

Not insulting anyone, Tarn... Just ribbing.. Stick out tongue

Sorta...Wink

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:15 PM

meanwhile, as the insults are hurled,,,,,,,the people that actually build those "hated" kits know something those that resist trying their first one don't know

it is physically impossible to build an accurate Hasegawa 1/72 Phantom "Shake and Bake" kit,,,,,,,without using putty, no matter which version you are building,,,,,if you choose F-4J, you have to putty,,,if you choose F-4C or D, you have to putty a different area

the same putty areas come into play if you choose RF-4B instead of RF-4C or E

to keep it in perspective,,,,,,this posting is from a Hasegawa kit builder that also builds Monogram kits when they are the best or some of the best toolings in 1/72 for their subject matter (just to show that I don't hate on the Monograms)

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 12, 2012 3:01 PM

Wonder if they'd put THAT in the glossary...

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, October 12, 2012 12:48 PM

Heh, heh, sort of like "I made him an offer he couldn't refuse."Cool


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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 12, 2012 12:14 PM

was bein' nice... In a sotto-voce, semi-threatenin' mafioso-sortta way..  Stick out tongue

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, October 12, 2012 11:59 AM

Hans von Hammer

SNIGLUPADED (SNIG-loo-pad-ded): Acronymn.= SNIp, GLUe, PAint, DEcal, Display.  The "Monogram Mafia" description of the only skills required to build Tamigawa-type kits..

 

Now, now Hans, be nice.Big Smile  Not everyone has experienced the joys of the Monogram way...Wink


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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 12, 2012 11:50 AM

SNIGLUPADED (SNIG-loo-pad-ded): Acronymn.= SNIp, GLUe, PAint, DEcal, Display.  The "Monogram Mafia" description of the only skills required to build Tamigawa-type kits..

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, October 12, 2012 9:28 AM

sweetpea

I thing this is the correct way to pronounce

Yep, that's about the way I say it too...Big Smile


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Posted by sweetpea on Friday, October 12, 2012 1:17 AM

I thing this is the correct way to pronounce

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:33 PM

Prof, we see it almost always as a companion to the word "justin"

as in "justin other Tamigawa Shake and Bake"

"it's not a Tamigawa, so some modeling skill is required to assemble,,,,,,,,,blah, blah, blah"

they forget that it takes a bit of modeling skill to assemble the Hasegawa Tomcat without making it look like a complete glue bomb of a build

I won't say anymore, because defending the kits I like is always taken as an insult to the kits I don't want to buy anymore of

let's just say that to most people,,,,,,,,the 1/72 Testors Skyray "looks like a Skyray", but, there is not any reason to pay the Tamiya price for the Testors version

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:31 PM

Well, IMO the finish of the kit is the deciding factor between a good build and a GREAT build, so IMO the actual assembly is just a "get-it-outta-the-way" exercise to get to the real challenge of a realistic finish...

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:16 PM

lol, Gamera,,,,,I am really just "picking along with you" not at you

it just struck my funny bone to be thinking that I should have been saying "Ehh, Ehh, Sir" back in the day, instead of "Aye, Aye, Sir"

made me think of the Canadian Marines instead of Uncle Sam's, lol

and peeking into that closed can of worms for a minute, also,,,,,I am not a big fan of the "Tamigawa Shake and Bake" insult,,,,,,the people that say it have obviously Never tried to Shake the 1/72 Hasegawa Tomcat the proper amount,,,,or maybe some have never seen inside those boxes

A,,,,,far more effort is required than the meme's Shake to get a good build,,,,,,and B,,,,,saying FrogMatchFix would start a small war, but Tamigawa is okay?

if anything would be a true shake and bake, it would be the kits with the LOWER parts counts, not the kits with the higher counts

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:48 PM

Funny thing, Rodan in Japanese is actually Radon, with a long "a", not the toxic gas found in basements, althought it might have been the basis for the name.

I see (hear?) a persistent pronounciation of Tamiya as "ta-mai-yah", but it really should be "ta-mee-ya".  (I got marched to J-school for nine years when I was little.  I fought it every inch of the way, but regretted not trying harder when I started picking up Japanese model mags in college - but that's another story!)

I also see Hasegawa frequently spelled as Hasagawa on the forums.

So is ESCI pronounced E-S-C-I, or Eshee?

Not really a pronounciation problem, but the one I like the least is Tamigawa.  Why deride quality?  Who made up this word?  I suspect the British, with their crappy plastic kits and even crappier cottage kits.  Oops, sorry; closing that can of worms right now.

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