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Chrome plated plastic parts and glue?

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  • Member since
    December 2012
Chrome plated plastic parts and glue?
Posted by Riffraff on Sunday, January 6, 2013 4:55 PM

When I am about to glue painted plastic model parts together, I always scrape off the paint/primer in applicable spots to get down to the plastic so that the Tamiya liquid bonding cement will work it's best. That is correct right?

This got me thiking about the chrome stuff such as bumpers etc on the car. Should I also be scraping off or cutting off the chrome layer to get the best bonding? or glue right on the chrome. I have been away from scale models since I was a teenager, but it seems to me that when parts fell off my models, it was always stuff like chrome bumprs etc. Maybe it's because I just glued it right out of the box?

FWIW I do wash all the parts in warm soapy water before I start the build. Thanks. 

 

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:30 PM

First off, welcome back to the hobby!

...and yes, you are correct. For liquid glues to do what they do best, a styrene to styrene bond is essential, so scraping away chrome/paint/primer from areas to be glued will insure a strong hold.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

  • Member since
    December 2012
Posted by Riffraff on Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:37 PM

Thanks, it's good to be back, and yes I do want to get a really good bond so I will continue with what I have beeen doing on the chrome stuff too.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, January 7, 2013 9:00 AM

ruddratt

First off, welcome back to the hobby!

...and yes, you are correct. For liquid glues to do what they do best, a styrene to styrene bond is essential, so scraping away chrome/paint/primer from areas to be glued will insure a strong hold.

Even for CA glues it is a good idea to scrape away the plating at the point you will be gluing, especially if the part is very big.  While CA can bond to the plating, the bond of the plating to the styrene underneath isn't the greatest, and the plating will peel off, allowing the part to fall away from what it is glued to.

BTW, an alternative to scraping is to use a small drill in a pinvise and drill several tiny holes in the area of the glue joint.  The glue can get a grip into these holes.  They do not need to be very deep- little more than dimples, as long as they go through the plating into the plastic.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    August 2008
Posted by tankerbuilder on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:35 AM

Hi:

   You are doing all the right stuff. Don was correct and ,I will add this. When gluing chrome especially , mount the part with white glue and carefully scribe a line at the joint

     Pop off the part and scrape away any chrome that will be covered by body parts . the glue will stick better and yes , put a teensy dimple or two to enhance the stickability (is that even a word ?).

     Now , one more thing. Wash those parts faithfully , BEFORE painting , it will help the paint stick  better. The manufacturers use something like  "PAM ", I was told . this allows more parts out of a mold in a shorter time , upping production .This needs to be washed off !         happy modeling !       Tanker-builder

  • Member since
    December 2012
Posted by Riffraff on Wednesday, January 9, 2013 5:34 PM

Great advice guys, thanks a lot!

Ha ha tankbuilder I think you invented a new word. Now I gotta try and find ways to include stickability into some sentances when I'm talking to my buddies. LOL  

  • Member since
    May 2023
Posted by Bill M on Sunday, May 14, 2023 10:06 AM

tankerbuilder

Hi:

   You are doing all the right stuff. Don was correct and ,I will add this. When gluing chrome especially , mount the part with white glue and carefully scribe a line at the joint

     Pop off the part and scrape away any chrome that will be covered by body parts . the glue will stick better and yes , put a teensy dimple or two to enhance the stickability (is that even a word ?).

     Now , one more thing. Wash those parts faithfully , BEFORE painting , it will help the paint stick  better. The manufacturers use something like  "PAM ", I was told . this allows more parts out of a mold in a shorter time , upping production .This needs to be washed off !         happy modeling !       Tanker-builder

 

I think you meant adhesiveness but you created an new slang word for us modelers. 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 15, 2023 9:58 AM

I've been working on that translation for the last ten years...you beat me to it!

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    December 2023
Posted by Maker666 on Friday, December 22, 2023 4:17 PM

If you have problems with the chrome finish after gluing and you need to repair it, I recommend this chrome brush paint for this task. It is much easier than separating the part again to paint it separately, or easier than masking the whole vehicle to repaint it with the airbrush with the risk of staining the finished areas.

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