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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 8, 2013 9:24 AM

Don Stauffer

There is a Misc. forum where you see some of the stranger stuff.

I used to say I model anything that moves.  Then, I saw an ad in a catalog of reading accessories (bookmarks, bookstands, and stuff) that had a model kit for the Gutenberg printing press! A nice little wooden kit. After building that, I admit stuff does not have to be a vehicle for me to model it :-)

Don,

     As they say "Truth is stranger then fiction."

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 8, 2013 9:23 AM

Eagle90

Digital_Cowboy

Eagle90

I'd say for me it is price.  But then again, if kit prices dropped, I'd probably get even more stupid on buying! Embarrassed

Second would be subject.  I find myself wanting the out of the ordinary subjects.  Aircraft you don't see much of, German WW II idea aircraft, armor that is not your main stream stuff (I really like the German 234 and all its variants!).

 

Eagle,

     Thank you for bring this topic up.  Years ago (back when we still had plenty of Newsgroups on a variety of topics) this topic came up and there were a number of modelers who thought that it was "wrong" to build a model of what they called "what if" hardware by say WWII Germans.  I forget all of the reasons that some of them gave for why this was "wrong," even when it was pointed out to them that most of the modelers building these so called "what if" models were just building hardware that had reached the blueprint/prototype stage.

     Those that built them pointed out that building a model of hardware that made not only the planning but blueprint /prototype stage was not building a "what if" model.  And that in doing so it's no different then building a model of any of the hardware that say the WWII Germans were using such as tanks, planes, rockets/missiles, etc.

     And that it is VERY different from building a so called "what if" model.  I would say that looking at a model of a piece of hardware that was used on the battlefield and "evolving" it isn't "wrong" as I am sure that there are plenty of engineers out there who have looked at what was used on the battlefield by everyone and "improved" upon it and that as with a lot of U.S. tech there is a LOT of it of WWII German tech that is still being used somewhere in the world, and/or evolving and being improved upon.

     So what is the general opinion here regarding the building of "non-mainstream" models?

For me it is the uniqueness of a subject.  Now I'm not saying anything bad for either side, to each their own, but if you like a subject, whether it be and actual piece of equipment, one on paper only, someones idea, or what ever, if you like it, build it and have fun.  If you don't like it........don't build it!  Build what makes you happy.  I mean, if you don't like blueprint ideas being built, do you not build any Sci-Fi stuff?  I don't think there is a real X-wing fighter or a real Bat-Wing out there, but I love putting Sci-Fi stuff together.  Bottom line, if you like it build it......if you don't, well.....then don't. 

Eagle90

 

Eagle,

     Again, agreed, there is something out there for everyone.  If a particular person doesn't like the so called "what if" models then don't build them.

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 8, 2013 9:15 AM

littletimmy

I have often built stuff that I knew of no known prototype and afterwards found the same thing or very similar actually did exist. When it comes right down to it   Theres a prototype for everything!

Little Timmy,

     I agree with you in that there is probably a prototype for "everything."

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Digital Cowboy
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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, April 8, 2013 9:06 AM

There is a Misc. forum where you see some of the stranger stuff.

I used to say I model anything that moves.  Then, I saw an ad in a catalog of reading accessories (bookmarks, bookstands, and stuff) that had a model kit for the Gutenberg printing press! A nice little wooden kit. After building that, I admit stuff does not have to be a vehicle for me to model it :-)

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, April 8, 2013 7:24 AM

Digital_Cowboy

Eagle90

I'd say for me it is price.  But then again, if kit prices dropped, I'd probably get even more stupid on buying! Embarrassed

Second would be subject.  I find myself wanting the out of the ordinary subjects.  Aircraft you don't see much of, German WW II idea aircraft, armor that is not your main stream stuff (I really like the German 234 and all its variants!).

 

Eagle,

     Thank you for bring this topic up.  Years ago (back when we still had plenty of Newsgroups on a variety of topics) this topic came up and there were a number of modelers who thought that it was "wrong" to build a model of what they called "what if" hardware by say WWII Germans.  I forget all of the reasons that some of them gave for why this was "wrong," even when it was pointed out to them that most of the modelers building these so called "what if" models were just building hardware that had reached the blueprint/prototype stage.

     Those that built them pointed out that building a model of hardware that made not only the planning but blueprint /prototype stage was not building a "what if" model.  And that in doing so it's no different then building a model of any of the hardware that say the WWII Germans were using such as tanks, planes, rockets/missiles, etc.

     And that it is VERY different from building a so called "what if" model.  I would say that looking at a model of a piece of hardware that was used on the battlefield and "evolving" it isn't "wrong" as I am sure that there are plenty of engineers out there who have looked at what was used on the battlefield by everyone and "improved" upon it and that as with a lot of U.S. tech there is a LOT of it of WWII German tech that is still being used somewhere in the world, and/or evolving and being improved upon.

     So what is the general opinion here regarding the building of "non-mainstream" models?

For me it is the uniqueness of a subject.  Now I'm not saying anything bad for either side, to each their own, but if you like a subject, whether it be and actual piece of equipment, one on paper only, someones idea, or what ever, if you like it, build it and have fun.  If you don't like it........don't build it!  Build what makes you happy.  I mean, if you don't like blueprint ideas being built, do you not build any Sci-Fi stuff?  I don't think there is a real X-wing fighter or a real Bat-Wing out there, but I love putting Sci-Fi stuff together.  Bottom line, if you like it build it......if you don't, well.....then don't. 

Eagle90

 

 

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Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, April 7, 2013 10:00 PM

I have often built stuff that I knew of no known prototype and afterwards found the same thing or very similar actually did exist. When it comes right down to it   Theres a prototype for everything!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:32 PM

Tojo72

If I like the way it looks,if it appeals to me,I will build it.It's my hobby to enjoy.

Tojo,

     I agree with you.  The only criteria that should apply to whatever model(s) one decides to build is whether or not it appeals to the model maker in whatever way.

     The bottom line is that if a person doesn't like a particular "what if" model that someone has built then like posts made to a mailing list they can "delete" or ignore it.  They don't have the "right" to tell someone what they can or cannot build.

     Even though it was a dark period in world history WWII is OF historical interest to a great many people and there is no reason why anyone should be "afraid" or "ashamed" to build a model of any piece of hardware that strikes their fancy.

     As the old saying goes, "Those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it." 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, April 7, 2013 6:17 PM

If I like the way it looks,if it appeals to me,I will build it.It's my hobby to enjoy.

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Building Non-Mainstream Stuff
Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Sunday, April 7, 2013 6:00 PM

Eagle90

I'd say for me it is price.  But then again, if kit prices dropped, I'd probably get even more stupid on buying! Embarrassed

Second would be subject.  I find myself wanting the out of the ordinary subjects.  Aircraft you don't see much of, German WW II idea aircraft, armor that is not your main stream stuff (I really like the German 234 and all its variants!).

 

Eagle,

     Thank you for bring this topic up.  Years ago (back when we still had plenty of Newsgroups on a variety of topics) this topic came up and there were a number of modelers who thought that it was "wrong" to build a model of what they called "what if" hardware by say WWII Germans.  I forget all of the reasons that some of them gave for why this was "wrong," even when it was pointed out to them that most of the modelers building these so called "what if" models were just building hardware that had reached the blueprint/prototype stage.

     Those that built them pointed out that building a model of hardware that made not only the planning but blueprint /prototype stage was not building a "what if" model.  And that in doing so it's no different then building a model of any of the hardware that say the WWII Germans were using such as tanks, planes, rockets/missiles, etc.

     And that it is VERY different from building a so called "what if" model.  I would say that looking at a model of a piece of hardware that was used on the battlefield and "evolving" it isn't "wrong" as I am sure that there are plenty of engineers out there who have looked at what was used on the battlefield by everyone and "improved" upon it and that as with a lot of U.S. tech there is a LOT of it of WWII German tech that is still being used somewhere in the world, and/or evolving and being improved upon.

     So what is the general opinion here regarding the building of "non-mainstream" models?

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Digital Cowboy
Live Long and Prosper
On the Bench: '64 Ford Fairlane; '09 Corvette Coupe

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