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Type of Glue (Part 2)

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Type of Glue (Part 2)
Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:26 PM

     Here's a question about glues/cements:

     Which is better?  Liquid or tube/gel, or CA, or two-part epoxy, or "white" craft glue?

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:11 PM

It depends what you want to glue.  I use them all for different purposes.  What are you gluing?

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:29 PM

checkmateking02

It depends what you want to glue.  I use them all for different purposes.  What are you gluing?

Checkmate King 02,

     I'm sorry about that.  I realize that each glue is better suited to a different material or combination of materials.  And I guess that I should have been clearer in my question.

     Let's say we're just gluing styrne to styrne.  Is the bottle liquid better then the gel in a tube?  What about using CA in place of plastic cement?  Or epoxy?  I've heard of/from modelers who swear by using CA for "everything" as well as modelers who swear on using epoxy for everything.  Then I've read of modelers (some right here) who "white" or "craft" glue for some of their building.

     So, I guess in general, what is the "best" type of glue/cement to use?

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, April 22, 2013 6:13 AM

For most of my work,I have been using Tamiya Extra-Thin Cement in the bottle.I have also used Testors liquid in the glass bottle and Tenax.

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Posted by qmiester on Monday, April 22, 2013 7:01 AM

A.  Liquid glue (methylene chloride) for gluing plastic (have some tube glue on the bench - haven't used it in years - not even sure it is still good)

B.  CA used to attach small parts (usually after the major painting is done or when I have to glue two different substances together ie plastic and wood)

C.  White glue for when I may have to temporarily have to attach parts (for painting) and attaching canopies/clear parts

D.  Have a tube of clear "watch crystal" that I find very helpful to glue multi part clear things together (more strength than white glue and doesn't fog the clear parts like CA often does)

Haven't used epoxy in a while, but I only have to go to my wife's craft room to find some if I do need it.

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 22, 2013 8:45 AM

Tojo72

For most of my work,I have been using Tamiya Extra-Thin Cement in the bottle.I have also used Testors liquid in the glass bottle and Tenax.

ToJo72,

     I haven't seen either Tamiya's or Tenax's at any of the LHS' in my area.  How do they rate compared to Testors?

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 22, 2013 8:55 AM

qmiester

A.  Liquid glue (methylene chloride) for gluing plastic (have some tube glue on the bench - haven't used it in years - not even sure it is still good)

B.  CA used to attach small parts (usually after the major painting is done or when I have to glue two different substances together ie plastic and wood)

C.  White glue for when I may have to temporarily have to attach parts (for painting) and attaching canopies/clear parts

D.  Have a tube of clear "watch crystal" that I find very helpful to glue multi part clear things together (more strength than white glue and doesn't fog the clear parts like CA often does)

Haven't used epoxy in a while, but I only have to go to my wife's craft room to find some if I do need it.

Quincy,

     Thank you for the break down.  On CA I've read where it can (to a degree) be used to fill gaps, and I would have to presume that gel plastic cement can/should be able to do the same job.  I would likewise imagine that epoxy likewise could be used as a gap filler.  I don't know if the dust from it (epoxy) would be good to breath.

     But "sadly" there are more than a few aspects of our hobby that aren't all that healthy for us to breath.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, April 22, 2013 9:02 AM

I have a special use for epoxy.  When gluing transparencies, CA will fog them.  Liquid or tube cement also smudges or fogs them.  White glue will glue them, but the bond is not real strong.  So if the windows or transparencies mount from the INSIDE of fuselage, you risk the pieces coming loose and falling inside!  This can be a particular problem when masking windows for painting.  So for transparencies that glue inside fuselage, I always use epoxy.  It holds very well, and does not fog plastic. It is a bit more work, with its mixing, but not nearly as much work as fishing out a piece from a closed up fuselage :-(   Gluing canopies with white glue is okay,  because they generally will not fall into fuselage interior.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Digital_Cowboy on Monday, April 22, 2013 9:55 AM

Don Stauffer

I have a special use for epoxy.  When gluing transparencies, CA will fog them.  Liquid or tube cement also smudges or fogs them.  White glue will glue them, but the bond is not real strong.  So if the windows or transparencies mount from the INSIDE of fuselage, you risk the pieces coming loose and falling inside!  This can be a particular problem when masking windows for painting.  So for transparencies that glue inside fuselage, I always use epoxy.  It holds very well, and does not fog plastic. It is a bit more work, with its mixing, but not nearly as much work as fishing out a piece from a closed up fuselage :-(   Gluing canopies with white glue is okay,  because they generally will not fall into fuselage interior.

Don,

     Thank you for the tips.  It makes sense that epoxy would probably be a better choice for gluing clear plastic inside a hull or fuselage.  Likewise I would imagine that it would be better for tinted "clear" plastic on model cars.

     Here's another good question concerning the use of white glue on clear parts.  Over time does one have to re-glue canopies and whatnot?  How long does it "last?"  CA, plastic cement, and epoxy I can see pretty much lasting "forever" but wouldn't white glue be more susceptible to humidity and other environmental conditions?

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