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Posted by afvet on Monday, October 7, 2013 5:47 PM

I am building a 1/48 B17G, painting aluminum.

Does anyone recommend weathering with pin wash and/or sludge wash?

thanks

Larry

Larry G.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, October 7, 2013 11:35 PM

No.  I am building one now.  I recommend using a Tamiya fine white primer, followed by Tamiya AS-12 bare metal silver, and don't wash or weather it.  It looks beautiful that way.  Finish it off with Testor's Glosscote or Semi- gloss clear laquer and you will be happy with it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:09 AM

I would not go for the panel line washes, but.... Definitely all the exhaust and oil staining seen around the engine cowlings, motor mounts, and the vents on the wings.

 

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 11:07 AM

stikpusher

 and the vents on the wings.

No staining from the wing vents, repeat, no staining from the wing vents! Bang Head

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:21 PM

What is that just the stuff from the cowlings blowing back past the wing vents?

 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:50 PM

I don't know- the engine exhaust pipes are underneath the wings, well aft of the engines.  I suppose I would put some subtle smoke stains on the bottoms of the wings streaming back from the exhausts, but that would be the only weathering I would care to do, especially since I am making my model look like the restored touring plane, "Liberty Belle."  I took a ride in it a few years ago, and know that they kept it bright, clean, and shiny. I don't recall seeing any dirt from the cowlings.

Aftermarket decals for "Liberty Belle" are available from Kits-World, if anyone else is interested.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:55 PM

Well there is soemthing there... 

but yes the undersides showed more from the Turbochargers & exhausts...

 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:09 PM

Interesting pics- thanks!  Don't know what that is on top of the wings.  The Liberty Belle did not have any of that, but being a show plane, it was no doubt frequently washed.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:15 PM

I dont like to use airshow warbirds for reference. Those are somebody's million/multimillion dollar babies, modified to conform to current FAA standards (no matter how accurately restored) and well cared for. While they are always a pleasure to see and hear (I love the rumble of a radial and snarl of an inline), they dont have the rode hard look of the operational aircraft that they represent. It's like seeing the old veteran today who still fits his dress uniform, and seeing a photo of him in 1944 when he was in his prime.

 

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 5:49 PM

Yeah, the vents behind each engine on the top of the wings is not exhaust, they are just for venting hot air from the inside of the wing, as well as fuel vapor. The exhaust stains on the nacelles is from the exhaust collector rings which have flexible joints. Some of the exhaust leaks from the flexible joints, thats what you see all over the nacelles.

If your doing liberty belle I wouldnt bother with that staining, as they would be kept pretty clean compared to operational aircraft. However, even the warbirds get pretty grimy, especially the underside of the wings. It sucks going to an airshow and getting oil on your clothes.

The pics are of the movie memphis belle, which liberty foundation is operating at the moment, supposedly till the liberty belle is rebuilt....

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 7:47 PM

I know the president of the Liberty Foundation said after the accident that the Liberty Belle could be rebuilt, but I find that hard to believe, after seeing aerial photos in news media of the wreckage after it burned up. Most of the fuselage and wings were just a pile of burnt rubble, just "gone".  The only thing that looked like it MIGHT be salvageable from those pics was the #4 engine.  

Glad they've got the movie Memphis Belle flying, anyhow.

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:22 PM

Ive heard that they are gonna be using parts from several B-17 wrecks to rebuild her.

And I'm happy to see the MM belle flying to but she was flying before that, and based out of geneseo NY. And somehow she wasnt taken to genny this past year...

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Posted by Hatfield321 on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:05 PM

I'm building one of my own, but in olive drab, and I would like to thank you for the photos. For this one, I wasn't getting too many decent pictures.

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:16 PM

Hatfield, google image is your friend, seriously.

And I wanna see pics of both you and afvet's builds!!! If you guys are posting pics as you go, myself and others can help out as you go, now get on those pics!

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Posted by Hatfield321 on Saturday, October 19, 2013 10:42 AM

Nowhere near done. Tons of stuff to do and fix.

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