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Undercoating Alclad

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  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Undercoating Alclad
Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:53 AM

Hey guys,

I haven't really painted anything using Alclad for quite some time now. My previous method was decanting a spray bomb into a small jar, then spraying that. This is messy and time consuming. So I tried using it just from the can itself. This puts down way too much paint, more like carpet bombing instead of precision bombing. So I guess my question for you is what do you guys use? Has the Alclad primer improved in the past couple years? I know it used to be hit or miss when it came to quality (specifically: curing vs remaining gummy forever). 

Let me know what you think, I've got some planes that are begging for natural metal finishes!

Thanks!!!

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:17 PM

When you ask about the primer are you asking about the grey micro filler primer or the gloss black base?

As far as QC goes Alclad II had some issues a awhile back but they have long since been corrected.  Any bottles purchased in the last 3 years won't have any issues.  I just sprayed the Alclad Gloss Black base 15 mins before I wrote this and its already dry and solid.

When it comes to painting the only time you will need the gloss black base (which doesn't have to be the Alclad II Gloss Black paint, btw) is when you are using the "high shine" paints.  The regular paints just need a smooth surface.  It has sort of become internet legend that you need the gloss black base for any of the Alclad II colors.  This isn't true.

If you do use the high shine colors apply them in light misty coats and build them up slowly.

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:45 PM

Fly-n-hi,

Thanks for the info. I knew the low shine (Aluminum and such) didn't require the black. For some reason I just thought they had a gloss gray primer as well. Would a Model Master gloss gray work well for a base coat? I know that being a lacquer, Alclad is a little more aggressive than most paints I use.

Thanks again.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:16 PM

You can get multiple panel color variation with one shade of Alclad if you use different color primers. For example spray black, lighter blacks to greys and even white then mist on the Alclad. The result will be subtle shade variations. The glossy primers will produce a smoother shinier shade,  the flat primer will give the Alclad an oxidized weathered look. For the high shine ones I use Testors gloss black enamel in the small bottle.

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  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:49 AM

I have used Testors gloss gray enamel on some panels for undercoat with alclad.  If some of the others are in the gloss black you get some variation in appearance.  Also, I use regular Testors gloss black for a high shine, rather than Alclad's primer.  That goes over my regular primer.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:38 PM

Thanks guys. I guess as long as I let the Testor's enamel cure, there should be no issues with Alclad. Awesome, can't wait to test it out!

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