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Unsaleable?
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:25 PM

Maybe this is just my impression, but the dealer table kits at the last couple of local swap meets I attended seemed to be composed mostly of 30 year old Revell and Monogram kits.

Sure, there were older kits from different companies on tables.

I was simply impressed by the sheer number of Revell and Monogram kits on the tables.

Perhaps this is because I was looking for kits from other manufacturers that I missed buying during the initial production run.

OTOH, I can't help wonder if dealers are simply more successful selling kits on e-bay and swap meets are their last attempt at selling the items that do not sell on-line.

I'd like to know if any others are noticing the same thing at their local swap meets.

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Posted by mississippivol on Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:32 PM

Sounds like they're thinning the stash, and consider then expendable.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:17 PM

And many of those older R/M kits are now being re popped by new companies so some folks by the new tooled kits and dump the older ones.

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:51 PM

There is some difficulty in doing that as the molds are older, and the quality of plastic in some cases are not as good as the originals. I bought a 87 Tbird kit that was molded a few years ago, and the plastic is horrible, nothing like the original releases.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:53 PM

It's not the plastic, it's sometimes the molds. After decades they've worn down and no longer match up. Mold slip happens and the models will never be the same unless they are retooled or repaired.

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Posted by TarnShip on Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:52 PM

Some of the Monogram molds are holding up just fine. I have an old Goshawk and the new one from Starfighter,,,,there is no difference in the quality of those two shots, so I would say that 1970's mold is okay today. Has anyone noticed any difference in the multiple Monogram releases, the Hasegawa releases or the Accurate Miniatures releases of the 1/72 Phantom. Granted, there are two sets of toolings sharing the work load, but, that kit has been released and re-released for decades now.

Since I want some of the ancient Monograms when I go to the shows, the only one I could buy today was the F4B-4 from a dealer, he bought it at the show and then sold it to me when I asked if he had seen any this morning.

The old kits I mostly see are Airfix, Testors,  and Hasegawa at the shows I go to,,,,,I think folks have snapped up all the Revell early boxes for kit collections. Some of the more desirable Monograms went that way as well, I think.

out of all the vendors I saw today, I only brought 5 kits home with me, one old White Box Monogram, one old Airfix-72, one old Hasegawa Armor, one new Hobbyboss Panther, and the new Airfix Airborne Jeep.

Today's tables were about equally split between new kit/new supplies vendors and "stash disposers".

ps Hasegawa Hornets are practically stocking stuffers this year, some I saw are cheaper than Hobbycraft 1/72 "anythings"

Rex

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:06 AM

Yes, the older releases of kits do tend to be more crisp than the current re issues due to the mold conditions mentioned by Rob. But then the decals are often questionable.

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, November 16, 2014 9:52 AM

Speaking of Accurate Miniatures repop of Monogram's Phantoms, the windscreen on AM's are mismolded. Someone here had that issue, and I told him that I didn't have that issue, because the one I was building at the same time fit (I was building the original Monogram release, not thinking that it could be much different than the AM's.). Next kit I  built was the AM, and then I saw what he was talking about.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:11 PM

TarnShip

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The old kits I mostly see are Airfix, Testors,  and Hasegawa at the shows I go to,,,,,I think folks have snapped up all the Revell early boxes for kit collections. Some of the more desirable Monograms went that way as well, I think.

out of all the vendors I saw today, I only brought 5 kits home with me, one old White Box Monogram, one old Airfix-72, one old Hasegawa Armor, one new Hobbyboss Panther, and the new Airfix Airborne Jeep.

......................

Rex

One woman in her 60s was trying to sell old Revell and Monogram kit boxings but I suppose the boxes were just too beat up for most.
I never witnessed seeing her make a sale.
Now that you mention it, I do not recall many early Revell or Monogram kits..........mostly 1970s or later  with a few late 1960s kits.
I bought very few kits and one was a Moebius Tumbler  ........
I did buy one spare and intact 1970s era Monogram TBD with Shep Payne diorama flyer ( copy ) for $5; partly for the flyer and instructions as I did not have either with my previous kit.
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Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:25 PM

I hope you build that TBD, you will enjoy it. Even die hard 1/72 guys like me have that kit in our past. (I've built 40-50 in that scale, mostly to give to other people)

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:34 PM

I hope to build it , as well.

Most of what I will be building will be restricted to 1/72 due to space limitations.

Only intend to build the Monogram kit OOB, however, and in differing paint schemes.

Now I need to check who has the Yellow Wings decals in stock for the movie Dive Bomber.Stick out tongue

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Posted by MJames70 on Monday, November 17, 2014 12:41 PM

That Monogram TBD kit is a good example of mold deterioration over the years. The most recent issue had serious issues with the wing corrugations. The mold has popped so many kits over the last 40 years or so that the corrugations have gotten indistinct and are sometimes all but running together. If you want a Monogram TBD, you are better off with an old issue, and taking your chances with the decals.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, November 17, 2014 1:26 PM

Just as well I bought that 1970s issue.

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