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Need help on a model
Posted by teejay on Monday, November 17, 2014 10:28 PM

I'm doing the 41 chevy pickup and on the cab the instruction told me to assemble the windows and the internal parts.Then on the last step it showed you what to put externally and one of the them is the side mirror. The thing is the side mirror has an extension on the side which you insert on the cab but the instruction never indicated that you need to cut a hole in it before assembling. Besides using a driller which I don't have what tools would you recommend to create a hole? Below is a picture of the cab and I circled the area where a hole must appear.

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Posted by Serrecko on Monday, November 17, 2014 11:46 PM

Figure out the size of the hole, and get a nail, heat it up, push it through.  That might work, or should work, and nails come in many sizes and are cheap, or free if you have nails just laying around.

Serrecko

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Posted by Ghostrider114 on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:49 AM

You could cut it out with a dremel or a pin-vice drill, but I would recommend just removing the locator pin with a razor saw.

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Posted by CN Spots on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:51 AM

You might be a able to do it with an excto blade by twisting the point to make a hole but a micro bit is the best way to go. Most other options will push the plastic out out to the sides of the hole rather than "scoop" it out and remove it like a drill bit would.  I'd do what Ghostrider suggested and just cut/sand off the pin.

They probably left the hole filled in case you wanted a shaved/hot rod look.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:02 AM

Are you sure you need a hole?  That depression in the surface looks to me like the base of the mirror may just glue into that depression. If there is a little projection from the mirror base, might that be just a piece of the sprue attachment gate, that has to be cut away?

If that IS the case, however, you still need to scrape the paint out of the depression.  For things like that I have several extremely small screwdrivers from a cheap set.  They are too weak to turn screws that are even slightly stuck in their threads, but they make excellent chisels for scraping paint out of such depressions.  A dull X-acto blade may work, but those tiny screwdrivers are better.  Just be careful. In fact, masking with tape around such depressions when you paint may avoid scratches when you slip.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by cvsaylr on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:29 AM

Is that a depression or a hinge? It's hard to tell which, for me. Depending on if the mirror base has a pin and you want to use the pin as a kind of extra support do yourself a favor and buy a couple of micro drill bits. Your hobby shop should have them, probably behind the counter so you'll have to ask. Usually with the smaller size drill bits you can open up your exacto knife handle and get a bit to fit into the jaw so that you're not trying to turn the bit with your fingers. If the bit won't fit into the exacto handle wrap a piece of masking tape around it to cushion it a bit and drill away. Shouldn't take much time for one hole. Remember to let the drill bit do the work, don't put pressure on it. You're still going to have to remove the paint where the mirror base is going to sit.

Dave

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Posted by echolmberg on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:19 AM

Teejay, I'm in agreement with the other posts above.  It looks like a depression in which the mirror sits.  The picture you took is great and very clear!  Would you be able to post another picture showing either the mirror itself (most specifically, the part of the mirror that will be glued to the door) or perhaps a picture of that particular step of the instruction sheet?

Eric

EDIT: Teejay, is this the Revell kit?  If so, then the instructions make it look like you just have to insert the mirror tab into the depression.  As Don stated above, just scrape out the paint and then glue the mirror into the slot.  Sometimes what I do in a case like this is trim the mirror tab down.  That way more glue stays in the slot and it isn't displaced and come gooshing out when the tab gets pushed in.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:08 PM

I'd still take this opportunity to buy myself a pin vise and some small drill bits, even if you don't use them here.  A pin vise is a very handy tool to add to your tool kit, and you can get a very decent one for a reasonable price at most hobby shops.  Not only for drilling, but you can chuck a fine needle or straight pin into in and use it as a scribing tool, or you could use it to hold a piece you're working on.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM

Don't drill a hole. That is a depression for the side mirror. If the instructions doesn't state to create a hole (obviously it doesn't), don't do it.

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Posted by teejay on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:13 PM

Teejay, I'm in agreement with the other posts above.  It looks like a depression in which the mirror sits.  The picture you took is great and very clear!  Would you be able to post another picture showing either the mirror itself (most specifically, the part of the mirror that will be glued to the door) or perhaps a picture of that particular step of the instruction sheet?

Hi Echolmberg

Here is the picture of the mirror and as seen on the circle there is an extension (cvsaylr, is this also called the pin on the mirror that you mentioned?) and yes that is from the Revell kit. Perhaps I can just cut it out but would it have enough support to hold the mirror.

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Posted by CN Spots on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:59 AM

That does not need a hole. Don't cut that tab off.  It fits in the depression on the door.  I thought that was a hinge on the door the first time I looked at it and the mirror went somewhere else.

Here's a pic of that mirror on the real deal.  A nice one too ; )

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Posted by Texgunner on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:29 AM

After America's entry into World War Two, auto manufacturers didn't build any new cars or trucks for domestic consumption until 1946.  Due to re-tooling needs, those '46 models were identical to the '41 and '42 models.  I learned to drive on a 1946 Chevrolet pick up that looked just like the one pictured.  Well, it wasn't that nice of course but otherwise the same truck.  I well remember that "crank out" windshield and the cowl vent that opened via a lever under the dashboard.  It had a floor-mounted shifter and the starter was a button on the floorboard.   Man, I would love to have one of those trucks now for a project.  I have a 305 Chevy V8, currently in a '67 Camaro that belongs to my son that would make a great mill for that truck.  Thanks for the great pic!

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by teejay on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:22 AM

Thanks for the picture. Observing how the mirror is placed the smaller extension has to go in the depression in order to match the picture but when I tried it, the depression is not deep enough for the side mirror without either cutting out the smaller extension or drilling a hole in the cab.

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Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:55 PM

Teejay, the depression not being deep enough for the tab isn't all that uncommon.  I think after you clear the paint out of the hole and scrape the chrome platting off the tab, you'll probably be in pretty good shape.  If not, then simply shave down the depth of the tab and keep test fitting it in the slot until it sits just the way you want it.  It might take a few repetitions of this process until you get it just right.

Eric

PS.  Thank you for including the extra pictures!  It helped a lot. Big Smile

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Posted by teejay on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:42 PM

Baron mentioned about pin vise. I went to Michael's and they don't sell them. Any recommendation as to what brand and where to buy them besides online as I want to test them first. Thanks.

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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:41 AM

I think I got my pin vise at HobbyTown.  I'm not sure where you're located but do you have any well-stocked hobby shops in your area?  Don't forget to check out the stores that cater to train enthusiasts.  I stop into my local train shop from time to time because they've got some great tools and supplies.

Eric

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:31 AM

Try Harbor Freight.

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Posted by J.Warnell on Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:46 PM

Hi teejay..The mirrors on a lot of the older trucks were actually mounted to the door hinge. Therefor, the tab on the mirror should protrude enough to represent the door hinge. With that in mind, you will probably want to scrape the chrome off of the tab (hinge) and paint it the color of the body. Hope this helps.

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:04 PM

Hobby Lobby has then in the modeling section as a small kit with some bits.  Print off their 40% coupon and you are good to go.

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Posted by teejay on Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:31 PM

Unfortunately we don't have Hobby Lobby here (wish we have) and Michaels and Joanne don't carry them but thank you all.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, November 21, 2014 12:24 PM

teejay

Baron mentioned about pin vise. I went to Michael's and they don't sell them. Any recommendation as to what brand and where to buy them besides online as I want to test them first. Thanks.

Hi, TJ, the others have made good suggestions about other sources, which I'll second.  And they're true about other supplies, too.  That is, look at model railroad shops, if there are any near you, or hardware stores.  Harbor Freight has good deals on relatively well-made tools, from small hand tools like pin vises, clamps, hobby knife sets, to compressors, tanks and air brushes.

As for brands, I couldn't tell you which brand mine is, but Squadron sells a pin vise, as does Tamiya, and X-Acto might, too.  Those are all brands you can find at a bricks-and-mortar shop, if buying online isn't an option.

I look at shows, too, both modeling shows, but even at other types of shows--here in the Mid-Altantic region, I see the same guy selling odd lots of tools at both scale modeling shows as well as at woodworking shows, and at flea markets.

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, November 21, 2014 1:42 PM

I buy tools pretty frequently via e-mail from MicroMark ( www.micromark.com ). On the left side of the home page is a list of categories. Click on "Drills and pin vises"; you'll find a lot of nice ones, including one that costs a little over $10.00. Then click on "Drill bits." I think you'd be happy with a set of bits #60 through #80 - like these: http://www.micromark.com/20-piece-micro-size-drill-bit-set-with-index-61-80,6758.html . You'll find they're useful for all sorts of things in model building; a lot of modelers couldn't get along without them.

Good luck.

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, November 21, 2014 1:57 PM

Might try a wood working tool shop if one near,  scroll saw people use the daylights out of them for small starter holes for blades.

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