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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:27 AM

BB's and white glue, BB's and 2-part epoxy putties, or shaped pieces of lead, it all depends.

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Posted by mitsdude on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:00 AM

I've heard of modellers using tungsten powder because of its high density. I believe its available at places that make/repair golf clubs.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:36 PM

When I was working on 1/44 scale VC-54C 'Sacred Cow', I had a heck of a time trying to put weight in the nose of the a/c without sacrificing space for the landing gear. Finally, I managed by pounding the crap out of a fishing weight just enough to be able to tuck it in. Of course, having the elevator in the down position helps too.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:57 AM

When I built the Special Hobby 1/72 Pucara, there was NO place to put weight. Slim little thing with turboprops in slender little nacelles.

Stuck a 55 gallon drum under the tail and called it a day.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:50 AM

Ya Know :

    Hi Don ;  Yeah I agree ! Now I was tickled when I got, I believe it is TAMIYA'S M.E.262 clear edition ,that the wheel well nose gun plate and cockpit base was all one piece of metal .She has never been a tail sitter !

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 21, 2015 9:08 AM

I find that some models take a very high density of weight- limited space in nose but a lot of weight needed.  In these cases, round objects or randomly shaped objects just have too low a packing factor.  I have tried the shaping of wooden patterns to fit space and casting the weight from low temp casting metals, but this is a LOT of work and expense!  I wish in the case of this type of problem that the mfg would supply cast weights!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Peaches on Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:11 AM

Ya know, I like that attitude, I said the same thing many a time when I was in SWA when we spilled fuel on the ground.

WIP:
Academy F-18 (1/72)

On Deck 

MH-60G 1:48 (Minicraft)

C-17 1/144

KC-135R 1/144

Academy F-18(1/72)

Ting Ting Ting, WTF is that....

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Friday, March 20, 2015 10:18 PM

I always thought that lead came from the ground in the first place........

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Posted by Real G on Friday, March 20, 2015 2:59 PM

I use lead bird shot mixed with Milliput epoxy putty for the difficult jobs where there is limited space for weight.  If doing something like an airliner, I use whatever I have lying around, like nuts/bolts, strip lead weights, etc.  I used pennies once, and it worked fine.

I have noticed that mixing CA glue with bird shot causes some slight expansion when the CA cures, so I avoid doing that.  If I need to secure loose weights, I use epoxy glue.  I have also copied Fine Molds' silly nut and bolt set in a bulkhead attached to a plate method, and it worked great!

When I was small, I used dead batteries secured with plasticine, but found out the hard way that if the battery leaked, there would be, um, trouble.  Don't try this at home, kids.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, March 20, 2015 12:50 PM

BB's smushed into a wad of sticky tack. Just make sure they're in there good.

-Tom

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Posted by Peaches on Friday, March 20, 2015 12:38 PM

This is going to sound hilarious, but I actually work on my models at work, (I work at the VA for the time being), so bullets are definitely out.

WIP:
Academy F-18 (1/72)

On Deck 

MH-60G 1:48 (Minicraft)

C-17 1/144

KC-135R 1/144

Academy F-18(1/72)

Ting Ting Ting, WTF is that....

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Friday, March 20, 2015 12:32 PM

I've found that 9mm and .45 ACP bullets, picked up from the berm on my shooting range, work well.  I epoxy them into nosecones on jets, or in other recesses.  I've also used lead shot mixed with 2-part epoxy, packed into anywhere I can in order to get the forward weight.  That "paste" could also be packed into drop tanks or bombs if they're forward of CG.

Gary


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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 20, 2015 10:41 AM

Yes to all but when your model does go to the landfill, so does all of that lead.

I buy 1/2" nuts and 1" short 1/2" bolts. Thread a couple three nuts on the bolt and you get a really heavy little nugget, all for about $ 0.75.

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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Friday, March 20, 2015 10:11 AM

Wheel weights, they are plentifully available to me.

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Posted by CN Spots on Friday, March 20, 2015 8:12 AM

If you have very little room and need a lot of weight, see if you can find some tungsten fishing weights.  For their size, they're about the heaviest thing available.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, March 20, 2015 6:38 AM

I glue in some BB's

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Posted by P mitch on Friday, March 20, 2015 6:25 AM

I'll use just about anything that will fit, just remember to use a white glue, any "hot" clue (ones that you'd use to join any styrene) will melt the plastic and distroy a piece.

You can have a look at "Liquid Ballast" or "LIquid Gravity" I hear they works well in small places

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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  • From: Orlando, Florida
Posted by ikar01 on Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 AM

Usually I use lead fishing weights.  They come in various sizes and weights and if necessary you can always flatten them out with a hammer or pliers if you think you need a couple more that can be put into small spaces.

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Ballast????
Posted by Peaches on Friday, March 20, 2015 5:11 AM

I was wondering what some of y'all use for ballast.  I tried a penny when I was just restarting, and that didn't fair so well.  I was thinking a ball of poster tack and see what any one else has used.

WIP:
Academy F-18 (1/72)

On Deck 

MH-60G 1:48 (Minicraft)

C-17 1/144

KC-135R 1/144

Academy F-18(1/72)

Ting Ting Ting, WTF is that....

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