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CA Fingerprints And Cyano Wipe
Posted by Moff on Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:24 AM

A couple quick questions for the more experienced modellers here. 

First of all, are fingerprint the fingerprints made visible by cyano fumes composed of cyano? Kind of like "fossilized" fingerprints? 

And my second and main question, has anyone here used Cyano Wipe, and is it effective?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:59 AM

Never heard of cyano wipe.  I do have a bottle of debonder, that softens CA so you can undo glued parts, but I assume that is not what you mean.  However, I have softened inadvertent glue spots on plastic and removed them when softened with isopropyl.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:37 PM

1. No.

2. I never have.

I also have never had the problem of fingerprints revealed by super glue. Reading some forensic how-to sites online, it doesn't sound like it's a simple process, requiring a sealed container, heat and humidity.

 

Has that problem come up? If so, I'd try some other remedies first, like a good cleaner. It sounds like the fingerprint is removable in the same way as if it had not been exposed to CA fumes.

One thing I did learn from reading these; cotton and CA have a strong and quick exothermic reaction. Which explains why drops of it seem to burn holes in my shirts. And I don't wear gloves when I am assembling models, but I am careful to wash my hands before starting, and snacks are not allowed at the bench.

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Posted by kenjitak on Sunday, October 11, 2015 2:33 PM

If I understand the question, the fumes from CA react with water vapor and can leave a white frosty deposit. I have used a damp Q-tip or even a tissue to get rid of it. I don't know if fingerprints will respond the same way, it probably depends on if the print is made of CA glue. Another tip, if you dip clear parts in Future the CA doesn't seem to leave the deposit. Hope this is helpful.

Ken

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Posted by Moff on Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:54 PM

Ok, thanks. I was surfing the internet and someone on the UK Modeller forum posted something where he referenced a product called Cyano Wipe...sounds like more internet surfing for me! I'll let you know of my findings (if any).

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Posted by Moff on Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:07 PM

It seems that there is a product called "Cyano Wipe", but it's a pretty small scale thing based in the UK. However, Goof-Off and a lot of other companies sell cyano remover, so I'll look into that. I'm having some fit issues with my first photoetch update set that I think is tied to overzealous cyano use.

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Posted by kenjitak on Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:35 PM

Check out CA debonder, sold by probably who sells CA. It will dissolve CA bonds. Probably that is what's in the wipes. It works and I've used it to dissolve glued together fingers and to clear CA from applicators. Be careful though, it may not like all paints or finishes.

Ken

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Posted by qmiester on Sunday, October 18, 2015 7:37 AM

If the Goof-Off you spoke of comes in a metal can, do not, I say again, do not use it on your models - It will melt them! 

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Posted by Moff on Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:08 AM

I used it on a large PE piece, so luckily I avoided that :) 

However, the cap and nozzle are plastic, so I don't know.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:59 PM

Don Stauffer

Never heard of cyano wipe.  I do have a bottle of debonder, that softens CA so you can undo glued parts, but I assume that is not what you mean.  However, I have softened inadvertent glue spots on plastic and removed them when softened with isopropyl.

 

i have used debonder and a Qtip to clean up CYA that got outside the gluing area. don't soak the Qtip and take your time and you can clean up "overs".

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Posted by Moff on Monday, October 26, 2015 12:02 PM

Yeah, the Goof-Off brand CA Remover doesn't seem very good...I may have to buy something else.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:32 PM
An acceptable alternative to CA for attaching PE is white glue--Aleene's craft type or even simply Elmer's. Since PE is so light, it works for most applications, depending on the part. White glues seem to work fine when attaching a flat PE to a flat surface. I've even assembled 1/700 naval radar with it, and it generally has enough strength to hold small PE parts together. Plus, it gives you time to adjust the part and it easily cleans up with water. I sometimes thin it down, use a brush to pick up the thinned glue and let it flow where it needs to be. After drying a few hours or a day, a damp q-tip will clean up any overage. Just an option for you to try. Good luck.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Moff on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:50 AM

checkmateking02
An acceptable alternative to CA for attaching PE is white glue--Aleene's craft type or even simply Elmer's.

 

Have you tested that Gator Glue that the magazine seems to like? 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:59 AM

I have the Gator glue in both the thick and thin and like it very much. It's my go to for clear parts. it fills gaps in windows and canopy frames vey well.

I have used it some for PE and found it adequate. it's flexible so the PE stays on when accidently bumped.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 5:23 PM

Nope, but I'd like to get some of it and try it out.

 

 

 

 

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