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    September 2009
Posted by Cobra 427 on Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:49 PM

Here's some although late, but still good advice. If you're looking for a reference - go to some local garages and take pictures of the cars outside. Or look some up online to get a sense of scale. It depends on what you're looking for in a model diorama. Are you looking for something simple, is it a  two car garage, multiple cars, or one story with a sign outside? Do you want a set of pumps out front like a full service station, or just cars outside? Is there a yard for customer cars waiting for pickup, or repair? The choice is yours. Use an airbrush if you want the best results. I use TRUE NITROCELLULOSE LACQUER - NOT ACRYLIC (as acrylic is NOT lacquer) for the ulitmate in glossiness, and ease of use. It's easy enough to wet-sand to get a smooth finish - I wouldn't use anything less than 1500 grit for this, and use Meguiars" No. 7 polish by hand to get that true show car look. Do this with an old CLEAN T-shirt, or with a terry cloth towel, or wash cloth, or for small hard to reach places a cotton swab.

If you need a general guide for measuring cars here's a rule of thumb that I use: if you're using any scale remember that the space for a vehicle is that a garage door is only a little wider than a car. Meaning that if this is 1/25th scale the door is going to be 3/4" of an inch wider on each side. The top of the door is going to be 3" - 4" inches taller than the top of the car. This is typical of most garages as there would be more room at the top for taller vehicles. If you're going to build 1/18th scale the same distance is going to be the same -  2" 1/2 inches from the side of the body to edge of the door, and 6" - 8" inches from the top of the car if you want to use the scale that is correct for the scale of car that I've described here. If you're using trucks then it'll be a larger hole. Use this as a key for determining what your needs are. Usually the vehicle will be 1/3 of the size the hole for the door will be, except semis. Those will about 3/4 of the height of the door way. The same with the width: the door will be at least the same distance - about 10" - 11" inches wide for 1/12th scale cars: 6" inches wide for 1/25th scale, and 4" 3/4 inches wide for 1/24th scale cars. Four to five inches tall for 1/25th scale cars. 3"1/2  to 4" 1/2 for 1/24th scale cars, and eight inches tall for 1/12th scale cars.  This is a general rule of thumb that I go by for building a PROFESSIONAL garage that repairs cars. It's accurate, and easy to get the correct sense of realism.  I hope that this can help in the future if I'm too late to help on this build.

 

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 18, 2016 9:06 AM

In most dioramas, everything should be in the same scale, except 1/24 and 1/25 are close enough you can use both in same diorama.  In some very small scale dioramas, say 1/72 or 1/144 you can sometimes get away with smaller scale stuff in background, but not in a garage scene.

Many of my car guy friends use lacquer spray cans, especially those touch-up brands meant for touching up cars, found at auto parts stores.  Lacquer has two advantages.  The quicker drying time means you have less problems with runs during thick coats.  Also, lacquer finishes are harder, so they respond to polishes better.  This means that you can put on the last coat a little thinner.  While you can do preliminary coats thinner, a good gloss ordinarily requires a thick coat unless you polish it.

Enamels and lacquers give the best gloss coats.  Even so-called gloss acrylics are harder to get a good gloss finish with.  However, a clear gloss coat will provide good gloss over a so-so acrylic finish.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    March 2007
  • From: Michigan
Posted by tonka on Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:21 PM

1. When painting model cars, what's the best way to do it? My last model I used a can of model car spray paint from hobby lobby and it came out terrible....

  • There are many sources for learning how to paint, Check out the Fine Scale Modeller books on painting and finishing. No matter spray can or air brush for car bodies you probably want a high smooth gloss shine (unless you are doing a 'beater dio") Grab a finishing kit like one from Micro Mesh. They are reusable sanding pads with grits in sizes suitable for sanding to a nice gloss finish. Also some plastic polish or model car garage Detail wax.

2. When building a diorama such as a car garage how do I know which scales for all the little detail pieces to use? My cars I have are 1/24 and 1/25 scale. What scale does the garage need to be? Tool boxes, tools, misc. Parts, etc....? 

  • All items in the diorama need to be the same scale(normally) I wouldnt worry about 1/24 or 1/25 they are so close it really doesnt make a difference except to some purists. BUT check out model railiroad sites or shops and doll house accessories. Many items can be used for multiple scales or for something they were not originally designed for (like a HO scale railroad oil storage tank becoming a trash can or compressor). If you want to pcik up 1/24 scale items look at G Scale Railroad items or 1/2 scale doll house accssories.

3. What's the best place to buy scale parts and pieces for model cars and garage dioramas?

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Posted by 40.mm on Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:00 PM

When useing rattle cans worm them up under some hot water that increases the pressure

and shake the hell out of them. That give you a more even flow ...

 

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:10 PM

I'm not a car modeler so I cannot answer your other questions but the first one I can. 

Some guys are very good using rattle cans and can do very good paint jobs. 

I have been modeling since the late 1960s and can tell you that an airbrush is the way to go.

An airbrush will give you more control and will apply thinner and more even coats than the rattle can.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:56 PM

The secret to spray painting with a rattle can is spray in several light coats until you're satisfied. Always let paint dry between coats.

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Thursday, March 17, 2016 8:39 PM

If your Google-Fu is strong, cast your search far and wide.  You will find many interesting things in 1/24-1/25 scale.  For example:

http://www.hlj.com/product/DZYRS24028/Aut

Although resin, it is not a difficult model to build.  Actually, it only comprises one piece, so it's down to just painting and applying the nice waterslide decals!

I believe Fujimi and Italeri both make garage/tool accessory kits in plastic.

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  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:24 PM

Welcome to the Forums!  Glad to have you aboard!

Scale Auto has all kinds of info that you are looking for.  They have ads from companies that make aftermarket accessories like the tools and garage you are after.

Another suggestion is to go to the Auto section of these forums.  The guys and gals there are ready to help with any problems/questions you have.

Hope this helps.  Good luck.

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New modeler looking for some advice.
Posted by Chf.BurninGlass on Thursday, March 17, 2016 1:39 AM

Hello, I'm fairly new to modeling, well I'm a novice modeler. I've done a few here and there as a kid. Now I am ready to go to the next level. I am a HUGE car fan. I am wanting to create a few garage dioramas. I have a few questions that I hope someone don't mind answering for me. Questions are listed below. Any and all replies are appreciated! Thank you in advance!

1. When painting model cars, what's the best way to do it? My last model I used a can of model car spray paint from hobby lobby and it came out terrible.... 

2. When building a diorama such as a car garage how do I know which scales for all the little detail pieces to use? My cars I have are 1/24 and 1/25 scale. What scale does the garage need to be? Tool boxes, tools, misc. Parts, etc....? 

3. What's the best place to buy scale parts and pieces for model cars and garage dioramas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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