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Need to Know How to Fix a Tail Dragger!

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Need to Know How to Fix a Tail Dragger!
Posted by MigMan on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:35 PM

Oh, learned modelers!

I have a dilemma! I have nearly finished my Dragon Models Mig-17 "Fresco" (which I have nick named "Fiasco"), I installed the wing landing gear but not yet the nose gear, when I discovered that I have a tail dragger! :eeek: The backend dropped like a rock! I did install a large weight in the nose when I first started, thinking that would be enough...but it wasn't!

There maybe some room for a little weight in the nose gear wheel well but I don't think that will be enough; what is a guy to do when his model is almost complete and it's to late to add weight inside the model?

Have you ever been confronted by a tail dragger before?

Thank you for your help in advance!

Joe

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Posted by Jay Jay on Friday, September 16, 2016 8:46 AM

I feel your pain Bro. I think we all have had this happen at one time or another. The easiest way to fix the tail dragger is put a little poster tack ( Blue Tack ? ) under the front wheel and stick it down to your shelf. easy peezy Smile

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:02 AM

You might consider displaying it on a base, just a small section of a ramp/tarmac.  Then glue the wheels to the base.  That is generally what I do when I cannot get a trike to sit properly.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:22 AM

I have the same problem with a MQ-1 Predator that I hastily forgot to add ballast in the front. Anyway, I planned anyway to put it on a base. I'm going to drill a small hole in the front and one rear wheel. Then drill and add a piece of brass rod to the base, and insert into the wheel. I'm hoping the wheel (if I do this correctly) will just stay connected to the brass rod. If not, I'll glue it. I will most likely attempt this this weekend.

Not sure if this is an option for you, but, I figured I would share.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by MailDude on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:59 AM

If there is any opening at all, I have squeezed finishing nails(brad nails) in and shook them to the front. If no opening drill a hole  the diameter of small finishing nails and insert them. Then patch the hole. You might be surprised at how little weight it may need, maybe just a couple nails. 

MailDude a.k.a. mailwalker

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, September 16, 2016 10:31 AM

MailDude

If there is any opening at all, I have squeezed finishing nails(brad nails) in and shook them to the front. If no opening drill a hole  the diameter of small finishing nails and insert them. Then patch the hole. You might be surprised at how little weight it may need, maybe just a couple nails. 

 

MailDude, why didn't you post this before I painted my Predator! lol! That is a great idea!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, September 16, 2016 10:43 AM

It pains me a bit to admit...I just did a pair of Mig-15s and completely forgot to add any nose weight. I ended up using pieces of lead sheet shoved down the sidewalls of the intake. Ya don't see em at a glance, but you will if you go snooping around.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, September 16, 2016 11:25 AM

I second Don's suggestion, put it on a base and fix the nosewheel to the base.  You can glue it, or maybe even use a small bolt, if the wheel is big enough.

You might want to put this in the Aircraft forum, though, too.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, September 16, 2016 11:29 AM

All my aircrfat are on bases so i don't bother adding any weight. To add to Don's suggestion, i drill a hole the nose wheel and insert a piece of metal rod. I then drill a hole into the base and glue the rod into that.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, September 16, 2016 4:06 PM

Bish

All my aircrfat are on bases so i don't bother adding any weight. To add to Don's suggestion, i drill a hole the nose wheel and insert a piece of metal rod. I then drill a hole into the base and glue the rod into that.

 

I have never...(and probably never will)...glued an aircraft to a base. However, on an off-shoot of Bish's response... I have drilled and glued a short pin/rod to the base, angled slightly forward...then drilled a hole in the nose wheel, also angled slightly forward. The angle helps hold the nose down without having to glue the wheel to the pin. This way, it is still easily removed from the base...for whatever reason it may need to be.

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Posted by MigMan on Monday, September 19, 2016 9:45 PM
Would love to see how you do that! If you get a chance, please show your work on the forum so we could all learn from you. Thanks for your response! Joe
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Posted by MigMan on Monday, September 19, 2016 9:47 PM

I just bought some "Liquid Gravity" which apparently works the same way that you just described.  Will give it a shot when it arrives!  Will let you know!

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:22 AM

Hello!

There are many things to try here... First of all, it's good to check how much weight you need balance that baby. If it's too much, you have to try non-invasive methods like fixing the model to the base. If the amount of weight is manageable, you have some options. You might try adding the weight to the drop tank fronts. You might flatten the main gear tyres a little - that moves the support point a little to the rear, a small move in the right direction. You could also glue wheel chokes to the mian gear wheels - gives you even a few millimeters more. You could buy metal front landing gear (a company called Scale Aircraft Conversions likely has one), maybe cast the front landing wheel in lead. Last resort could be drilling holes in the hull and putting length of soldering wire (lead!) in those holes - that could be later filled, sanded smooth and repainted.

I hope it helps - please post some photos! Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:37 PM

MigMan
Would love to see how you do that! If you get a chance, please show your work on the forum so we could all learn from you. Thanks for your response! Joe
 

This example is AccuMini's 1/48 B-25. Even with the supplied weights, it BARELY rests on the nose...the slightest whisper of a breeze and it drops to its tail.

You can see the pin here (in this case, I used a small piece of old guitar string) at a slight forward angle...

...And the hole in the wheel...

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