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  • Member since
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  • From: Maine
Now I remember why I left...and it is not the people
Posted by PontiacRich on Thursday, March 02, 2017 8:26 PM

With apologies to the fine men, women, and admins on this forum.

Been back on the forum for about a week now I am still amazed at the quality of the people and the builds.   You all are amazing modelers and awesome human beings. Bow Down

The site itself is what bothers me.

  1. The ads
  2. No "Back to Top" button
  3. No "Back" button of any kind
  4. The outmoded way we have to post images
  5. The annoying top banner that drops down over the discussion path when your mouse (or pen/tablet that I use) gets too close
  6. No spell check
  7. an aposttophe " ' " in a title and the software has knipshin

I'm not going to leave, but it does make moving around the pages tedious and sometimes frustrating.

Sorry, had a stressful day and needed to vent. Lightning

 

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 03, 2017 8:49 AM

I am not connected with FSM at all, except I have written a couple of articles for them as a free-lancer.  I have nothing whatsoever to do with the forums other than as a user.

The ads I guess is one disadvantage of free forums.  I probably wouldn't use this forum if I had to pay.  Many other free forums I frequent also have ads.

The navigating functions may be a problem with the browser or computer you are using.  I use a PC with Windows 10.  I can get back to top of page by using CONTROL- (up arrow).  My browser (Mozilla Firefox) has a back arrow to take me back to last page.

Having FSM host the images would be nice, but images take a whopping big amount of memory, and I can see for a small operation like FSM, the cost of servers and drives able to store all those images might be pretty expensive.

I do agree that link area for that top banner is too close to the navigation links, and there should be a space between those areas.

Not sure whether the spell check problem is a browser problem or a web site problem.  Spell check would be nice, but since I am not sure whether that is a browser or web site issue I am neutral on it.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by PontiacRich on Friday, March 03, 2017 9:07 AM

Don Stauffer

I am not connected with FSM at all, except I have written a couple of articles for them as a free-lancer.  I have nothing whatsoever to do with the forums other than as a user.

The ads I guess is one disadvantage of free forums.  I probably wouldn't use this forum if I had to pay.  Many other free forums I frequent also have ads.

The navigating functions may be a problem with the browser or computer you are using.  I use a PC with Windows 10.  I can get back to top of page by using CONTROL- (up arrow).  My browser (Mozilla Firefox) has a back arrow to take me back to last page.

Having FSM host the images would be nice, but images take a whopping big amount of memory, and I can see for a small operation like FSM, the cost of servers and drives able to store all those images might be pretty expensive.

I do agree that link area for that top banner is too close to the navigation links, and there should be a space between those areas.

Not sure whether the spell check problem is a browser problem or a web site problem.  Spell check would be nice, but since I am not sure whether that is a browser or web site issue I am neutral on it.

Thanks for the input Don.

As I said, I had a bad day yesterday.  I regretted posting it almost as soon as I hit the button.

It's just annoying litle things that were not here before the big change a few years ago (except for the photo's).

I agree that photos take a lot of space, but many websites have found solutions.  I belong to several other free forums where you can directly upload from my computer.

I use Chrome so I'm not sure if there is a hot key for top of page etc.  but I'll do some Googling!

I'm feeling better this morning.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by hypertex on Friday, March 03, 2017 9:19 AM

Since when is the onus on the website to provide a back button? Web browsers have had back buttons since . . . well, as far back as I can remember. As long as the web developers don't break the back button, it will work (as it does on this forum).

Spell check would be nice. Web browsers have built-in spell checkers, but they don't work with these wysisyg editors for some reason. But there are plenty of free spell checkers out there, so I don't know what their excuse is.

Apostrophes in titles work fine. Something weird must be going on at your end.

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  • From: Maine
Posted by PontiacRich on Friday, March 03, 2017 9:25 AM

hypertex

Since when is the onus on the website to provide a back button? Web browsers have had back buttons since . . . well, as far back as I can remember. As long as the web developers don't break the back button, it will work (as it does on this forum).

Spell check would be nice. Web browsers have built-in spell checkers, but they don't work with these wysisyg editors for some reason. But there are plenty of free spell checkers out there, so I don't know what their excuse is.

Apostrophes in titles work fine. Something weird must be going on at your end.

This forum had a "Back to Top" button  before the software change.  If I remember right, it was located under each reply, or at least at the bottom of each thread page.
 
I just want it back.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 03, 2017 9:50 AM

PontiacRich

With apologies to the fine men, women, and admins on this forum.

Been back on the forum for about a week now I am still amazed at the quality of the people and the builds.   You all are amazing modelers and awesome human beings. Bow Down

The site itself is what bothers me.

  1. The ads
  2. No "Back to Top" button
  3. No "Back" button of any kind
  4. The outmoded way we have to post images
  5. The annoying top banner that drops down over the discussion path when your mouse (or pen/tablet that I use) gets too close
  6. No spell check
  7. an aposttophe " ' " in a title and the software has knipshin

I'm not going to leave, but it does make moving around the pages tedious and sometimes frustrating.

Sorry, had a stressful day and needed to vent. Lightning

 

 

While i agree with most of what you say, this one always confuses me. I see this mentioned over and over and yet i can't see how this is differant to most other forums.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Dragon 1/35th Pz II Ausf F

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  • From: Maine
Posted by PontiacRich on Friday, March 03, 2017 9:58 AM

Bish

 

 
PontiacRich

With apologies to the fine men, women, and admins on this forum.

Been back on the forum for about a week now I am still amazed at the quality of the people and the builds.   You all are amazing modelers and awesome human beings. Bow Down

The site itself is what bothers me.

  1. The ads
  2. No "Back to Top" button
  3. No "Back" button of any kind
  4. The outmoded way we have to post images
  5. The annoying top banner that drops down over the discussion path when your mouse (or pen/tablet that I use) gets too close
  6. No spell check
  7. an aposttophe " ' " in a title and the software has knipshin

I'm not going to leave, but it does make moving around the pages tedious and sometimes frustrating.

Sorry, had a stressful day and needed to vent. Lightning

 

 

 

 

While i agree with most of what you say, this one always confuses me. I see this mentioned over and over and yet i can't see how this is differant to most other forums.

 

I am currently in other forums that allow upload directly from my PC.  Add to that Facebook and so many other web pages allow direct uploads.  This forum is a website, the technology exists and has existed for quite a while.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:02 AM

PontiacRich
 
Bish

 

 
PontiacRich

With apologies to the fine men, women, and admins on this forum.

Been back on the forum for about a week now I am still amazed at the quality of the people and the builds.   You all are amazing modelers and awesome human beings. Bow Down

The site itself is what bothers me.

  1. The ads
  2. No "Back to Top" button
  3. No "Back" button of any kind
  4. The outmoded way we have to post images
  5. The annoying top banner that drops down over the discussion path when your mouse (or pen/tablet that I use) gets too close
  6. No spell check
  7. an aposttophe " ' " in a title and the software has knipshin

I'm not going to leave, but it does make moving around the pages tedious and sometimes frustrating.

Sorry, had a stressful day and needed to vent. Lightning

 

 

 

 

While i agree with most of what you say, this one always confuses me. I see this mentioned over and over and yet i can't see how this is differant to most other forums.

 

 

 

I am currently in other forums that allow upload directly from my PC.  Add to that Facebook and so many other web pages allow direct uploads.  This forum is a website, the technology exists and has existed for quite a while.

 

Interesting. I have been to a number of modelling forums and not one of them allows that, and most have a more awkward way of loading photo's than here. In fact this site is one of the easiest i have found to load pics but seems to be the only one where i have seen people complain about it.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Dragon 1/35th Pz II Ausf F

  • Member since
    July, 2005
  • From: Maine
Posted by PontiacRich on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:12 AM

Bish

 

 
PontiacRich
 
Bish

 

 
PontiacRich

With apologies to the fine men, women, and admins on this forum.

Been back on the forum for about a week now I am still amazed at the quality of the people and the builds.   You all are amazing modelers and awesome human beings. Bow Down

The site itself is what bothers me.

  1. The ads
  2. No "Back to Top" button
  3. No "Back" button of any kind
  4. The outmoded way we have to post images
  5. The annoying top banner that drops down over the discussion path when your mouse (or pen/tablet that I use) gets too close
  6. No spell check
  7. an aposttophe " ' " in a title and the software has knipshin

I'm not going to leave, but it does make moving around the pages tedious and sometimes frustrating.

Sorry, had a stressful day and needed to vent. Lightning

 

 

 

 

While i agree with most of what you say, this one always confuses me. I see this mentioned over and over and yet i can't see how this is differant to most other forums.

 

 

 

I am currently in other forums that allow upload directly from my PC.  Add to that Facebook and so many other web pages allow direct uploads.  This forum is a website, the technology exists and has existed for quite a while.

 

 

 

Interesting. I have been to a number of modelling forums and not one of them allows that, and most have a more awkward way of loading photo's than here. In fact this site is one of the easiest i have found to load pics but seems to be the only one where i have seen people complain about it.

 

Bish - 

The other forums I frequent are on are not modeling forums.  They are drumming, scuba, and Camaro forums...the other hobbies that take up my time and money.

Certaintly, if Facebook and other social media forums, and photobucket itself have the technology to allow direct uploads - this forum can implement it.

Anyway, this thread is just my opinion, I meant no disrespect to anyone.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:12 AM

Yes Model Ship World, Audiokarma,Jalopyjournal and the Guns Abd ammo forums have a feature that allows you to upload pictures directly from my tablet without having to go to photobucket and cut and paste.That would be a nice feature to add to the FSM forums for sure.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:12 AM

that drop down banner is one of the most annoying things around

I like the link to click on your discussions so I can see what I responded to quickly

I'm glad they removed the ability to do that for other members, I had my own personal troll who would only respond to my comment (even made some comments in old threads in categories I never post in to verify). Once he couldn't easily find my posts, he vanished.

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    July, 2005
  • From: Maine
Posted by PontiacRich on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:32 AM

Rob Gronovius

that drop down banner is one of the most annoying things around

I like the link to click on your discussions so I can see what I responded to quickly

I'm glad they removed the ability to do that for other members, I had my own personal troll who would only respond to my comment (even made some comments in old threads in categories I never post in to verify). Once he couldn't easily find my posts, he vanished.

Yikes!  Surprise  Life is too short to troll forums.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by fermis on Friday, March 03, 2017 11:14 AM

#2 and 5 are the only ones I find bothersome.

It would really be nice to have the little menu bar at the buttom of the page too.

1st world problems!!!Toast

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Posted by Murphy's Law on Friday, March 03, 2017 12:21 PM

Bish-

It may not be for you but to me it's a major pain having to upload first to photobucket (which is what I use) then copy the link to each picture and post on my message. Constant back and forth. Oh and by the way scale-models.co.uk allows direct uploads. Doing one or two pictures is no big deal but when Im wanting to do a WIP thread it really takes the fun out of it to an extent. 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 03, 2017 12:32 PM

Murphy's Law

Bish-

It may not be for you but to me it's a major pain having to upload first to photobucket (which is what I use) then copy the link to each picture and post on my message. Constant back and forth. Oh and by the way scale-models.co.uk allows direct uploads. Doing one or two pictures is no big deal but when Im wanting to do a WIP thread it really takes the fun out of it to an extent. 

 

Well, as i said before, i have seen plenty of other forum, including Brit modeller, Armorama and others (hardly small fry in the modelling world) and yet this is the only one where i see it mentioned and you would think its the only forum that does it this way.

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Dragon 1/35th Pz II Ausf F

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 03, 2017 12:35 PM

fermis

#2 and 5 are the only ones I find bothersome.

It would really be nice to have the little menu bar at the buttom of the page too.

1st world problems!!!Toast

 

I know, tragic ain't it Big Smile

Maybe we should call in the UN and get them to deal with the crisis.Wink

 ''I am a Norfolk man, and I glory in being so''

  

On the bench: Dragon 1/35th Pz II Ausf F

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, March 03, 2017 12:41 PM

I always thought that an upgrade to website met adding features and not taking them away.  FSM forum is not as friendly as the old site was several years ago. 

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Posted by Murphy's Law on Friday, March 03, 2017 12:41 PM

 

 Dont think anyone is saying this is the only place that does it that way. I think we are saying if it's out there to make life easier which it is then why not use it? Just my thoughts.. I still love this forum

 
Bish
Murphy's Law

Bish-

It may not be for you but to me it's a major pain having to upload first to photobucket (which is what I use) then copy the link to each picture and post on my message. Constant back and forth. Oh and by the way scale-models.co.uk allows direct uploads. Doing one or two pictures is no big deal but when Im wanting to do a WIP thread it really takes the fun out of it to an extent. 

 

 

 

Well, as i said before, i have seen plenty of other forum, including Brit modeller, Armorama and others (hardly small fry in the modelling world) and yet this is the only one where i see it mentioned and you would think its the only forum that does it this way.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, March 03, 2017 3:03 PM

The site may be a little convoluted, but I'm glad it is here.  They don't have to spend the time and money for it, and I appreciate it.

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Posted by Greg on Friday, March 03, 2017 5:13 PM

goldhammer

The site may be a little convoluted, but I'm glad it is here.  They don't have to spend the time and money for it, and I appreciate it.

 

Ditto that.

I get frustrated with the layout and the latest changes from a couple years back like everyone else, but at the end of of the day I'm with goldhammer, glad FSM provides it for us.

 

-Greg

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, March 03, 2017 11:21 PM

Probably the biggest thing that chaffs me is the lack of being able to sell and trade here. Other forums have sponsors and still allow it. Obviously it hasn't hurt their advertising stream, or they would have gotten rid of it!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 03, 2017 11:45 PM

All in all, the site has its pros and cons. The revamps do not seem to really improve anything, but I understand they may be needed to keep compatible with the latest devices. But like the title says, it's the members that keep me coming back. 

 

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Posted by cwalker3 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:13 AM

The only complaint I have with the forum is I can't mchange my email address. There's been a question about this in the Tech Assistance forum for 8 months now with the only response from the admins being the wrong answer. It's very frustrating when the people in charge of the place won't try and answer a question about a problem the members are having, even if the answer is what we don't want to hear. No one wants to be ignored. It's not only rude, it's unprofessional. 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:02 PM

Well;

 You know If F.S.M didn't have this I would've never met the guys and gals On this here modeling Merry Go Round ! So I am glad to have them , regardless of any flaws .  T.B.

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Posted by PontiacRich on Saturday, March 04, 2017 6:01 PM

Tanker - Builder

Well;

 You know If F.S.M didn't have this I would've never met the guys and gals On this here modeling Merry Go Round ! So I am glad to have them , regardless of any flaws .  T.B.

 

Very true TB.  That's why I keep coming back.

Rich - "And when the Band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" - Pink Floyd

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:58 AM

I met a lot of modeling friends on the old newsgroup rec.models.scale.  Remember newsgroups, you old timers?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, March 05, 2017 11:21 AM

Don Stauffer

I met a lot of modeling friends on the old newsgroup rec.models.scale.  Remember newsgroups, you old timers?

 

Yes, I still post at RMS on occasion, few days ago in fact

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rec.models.scale

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 06, 2017 8:37 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Don Stauffer

I met a lot of modeling friends on the old newsgroup rec.models.scale.  Remember newsgroups, you old timers?

 

 

 

Yes, I still post at RMS on occasion, few days ago in fact

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rec.models.scale

 

Amazing that it is still operating as normal.  All the other newsgroups I followed have been taken over by vandals and cruddy people.  I have not gone to a newsgroup in quite awhile. I wonder if going through google groups makes a difference.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, March 06, 2017 12:29 PM

Not quite as normal. Maybe 3-5 people who might post every couple of months, normally when a stranger discovers some a post that is 20 years old and replies. Cookie still pops up some of his old school reviews on occasion.

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