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M3 Lee Lulubelle from 1943 Sahara - Long or short 75mm Barrel

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    September, 2017
M3 Lee Lulubelle from 1943 Sahara - Long or short 75mm Barrel
Posted by OCD135 on Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:29 PM

I need some help with my current project. 

After many searches and studying both the film and photos I haven’t been able to definitively determine the barrel length for Bogart’s M3 Lee Lulubelle. Most pictures show the front in some sort of angle perspective. Without a good sideview, I really don't have a refernce to compare the barrel lenght to the front of the tank.

To me it looks like the early short barrel M2 75mm L/31 gun. As most of you know Acedemy includes a long and short barrel. I want to be sure I use to correct one.

Anybody able to confirm this for me?

Thanks

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    May, 2003
  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Sunday, October 01, 2017 6:17 PM
Quincy
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    March, 2003
  • From: Northern New Jersey
Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:08 PM

I don't have your answer,but were you able to come up with decals as I have a similar project in mind useing the new takom Lee as Lulubelle

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    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:16 PM

Quincy, the links don't work.

I bought the wrong kit! At Modelpalooza I found the Tamiya M3 Grant tank and bought it thinking it would be Lulubelle. The Grant has a different top turret than the Lee. Now I have to track down the M3 Lee kit.

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    December, 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:17 PM

I thought it was a long barrel, but I could be wrong.

http://bountyjumper.blogspot.com/2009/03/lulubelle-m3-medium-tank-study.html

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    September, 2016
Posted by Retired In Kalifornia on Sunday, October 01, 2017 7:39 PM

Rob Gronovius

I thought it was a long barrel, but I could be wrong.

http://bountyjumper.blogspot.com/2009/03/lulubelle-m3-medium-tank-study.html

 

Some years older I'd be at the time of the blogger here; Hawk Weird-O kits shown date this photo sometime after November 1963 when they'd hit the market - note what looks like a Christmas paper wrapped parcel he's carring, could indeed be December that year. That month or for sure by mid-December I'd bought & built Kit 16004 "Daddy", even painted it "after a fashion".

 

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    September, 2013
Posted by Marcus McBean on Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:19 PM

It looks like a M3 barrel to me.  I don't see any flaring at the end of the barrel like you see with a M2 barrel. 

I believe there are many shots of the tank that one should be able to get a clear view.  I am going to have to see if I can a copy of the movie just so I will know....LOL

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    September, 2017
Posted by OCD135 on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 10:04 AM

The Acedemy M3 Lee 13206 kit is close. So far I've had to scratch build the exhaust, air cleaners, and tool boxes. If you watch the movie or look at stills you'll see the differences. I'll try to post pics of my progress.

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    September, 2017
Posted by OCD135 on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 10:05 AM
No decals yet. May use a vinyl cutter to create a mask.
  • Member since
    December, 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 10:28 AM

OCD135

The Acedemy M3 Lee 13206 kit is close. So far I've had to scratch build the exhaust, air cleaners, and tool boxes. If you watch the movie or look at stills you'll see the differences. I'll try to post pics of my progress.

 

If you do, you should do so in the armor modeling forum.

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