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Zimmeret tool or saw for putty
Posted by Kien on Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:45 PM

Hey,

Might anyone know about a zimmeret tool or saw to get the zimmeret texture on putty. I'm making my own zim with putty and remember seeing a specific zimmerit saw to get the correct texture to scale, but can't find it online. If any of you know a product like that or similar to it, please let me know!

Kien 

 

 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:28 AM

Here is what you are looking for: Zim

Check eBay too.

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Posted by Kien on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:03 AM

Hogfan,

thanks for the reply, all I could find were plastic ones like the trumpeter tool. Metal seems better to me, do you agree? I also just came across the tamiya zimmerit saw set. Do you think the roller is better because it already has a correct width, or using the tamiya metal saw? 

Kien 

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Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:07 PM

I have the Lionroar Zimmerit tool, however, I have not use it yet. I bought it because the width looks correct, and it is all metal. When you buy the rollers, you get a few different styles , including a waffle style. And a 1/48 scale roller. I paid about $40 for the complete kit. I'm sorry, but, I'm not familiar with the Tamiya metal saw.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:02 PM

The Tamiya set has two different sizes of grooves. I have used it on a few of my builds. It works ok, but takes some practice to get the hang of using.

 

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Posted by Kien on Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:47 AM

So I decided that since I will be using kneadatite green stuff which is fairly rough like milliput, I am better off using a metal roller for some sharper imprints. I will either get the lion roar roller or the afv club roller (both metal). Which ever one I can get cheaper. 

Appreciate the help on finding the right tool,

Kien

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:12 AM

Not sure what you mean by these parties being "rough", but I'd be careful drawing comparisons between Milliput and the "green stuff" because while they are both two-part epoxy putties, there is a world of difference between the two. 

Green stuff (Kneadatite) tends to cure to a very distinct, rubbery consistency which has a hard time sticking to bare plastic. If you don't smooth it while it is still setting up, forget sanding or filing the stuff once it is dried. 

Milliput cures very hard, sticks to nearly everything (including stuff you don't want to cover in putty, like tools, fingers, and work surfaces) and while it sets up, it can be smoothed with water, which can also be used to help with the stickiness issues. Once fully cured, Milliput can be sanded/polished/filed/drilled, where Kneadatite cannot because of its rubbery consistency.

Neither are particularly "rough" to begin with, but if texture is a concern, Milliput is the way to go.

Tony Greenland, a big armor modeler who literally wrote the book on modeling panzers in the late 90s, swore by Milliput cut with water to a paste-like consistency and spread with a corregated piece of metal he'd found in a shoe repair kit. His advice on "green stuff" was to reserve its use for figure modifications where the rubbery consistency is an advantage. I tend to agree.

 

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Posted by Kien on Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:46 PM

Knight Templar, 

What I mean is that the milliput and greenstuff doesn't have toothpaste consistency like the vallejo putty or tamiya putty. And I prefer a material that is rougher and holds its shape more when doing zimmeret with the tool. On the other hand, you mentioned kneadatite doesn't hold on well to plastic. I have kneadatite for stowage, so could I use it for zimmeret and get away with it? Or should I spend the 10-15$ on milliput? If so should I get milliput white superfine or milliput yellow-green? (or any of the others?). 

Thanks

Kien

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