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Posting Phobia - Finished Models
Posted by CaddMann05 on Friday, October 20, 2017 1:01 PM

I have modeled since the late 60's and I have never shown any completed model either in a contest or to other modelers.  I don't remember how many models I have built in those years, but let's say it's more than a couple.

I have never joined a club as a kid nor even now as an adult. I grew up as an air force brat until age 16 when my dad retired from the air force.  When he retired we moved to a very small town in Texas where no one else built models and if the local department store had any models it was usually car kits. Pickings were scarce.  No good airplane or military models available meant I had to settle.

I never had the oppurtunity to learn from others and my knowledge and skills lacked for a long time.  What I did learn was from the occasional purchase of a plastic scale modeler magazine or just plain trial and error.  I know that is a reason why I have not shown others my models, just embarrased about my abilities.  Another reason was too many people judged others based upon their own skill levels. This event actually happened when I was at a local showing when I was living in Las Vegas many years ago.  I was looking at some tanks built by youngsters and two men approched the table I was at and commenting on the quality of the models. One of the two men made statements degrading a particular tank ( I don't remember what type) about the finish and the written description concerning the build when he said that was too elementary for him and that he had stopped using that particular method may years ago.  Now it may seen trival to others, but again this table was for junior modelers just getting into the hobby.  I looked at that man with disgust and walked away, as a matter of fact I left the show. It would have done no good to confront that man about his statements, other than to create a scene.

I knew from that point on in my own mind that it was more than a fun hobby, and that some people went to the extreme within the hobby.  So I still have never shown others my plastic models.  I want to, but have this phobia about what others will say or write about.  Childish, perhaps so, but it doesn't matter what age you are at, people are people and want validation for the effort even if the effort is not up to snuff.

There is one excetion to my modeling efforts.  I like to build paper models as well, so I do show those on another website I do belong to.  The paper models are easier to build and are prepainted, so just cut and paste and you have a good looking model. Maybe in time I will post, but for now I enjoy looking at other people's effort and wish I had their confidence and abilites in this great hobby.

Varity is the spice of life. Chef

caddmann05 Cowboy Geeked

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Posted by armornut on Friday, October 20, 2017 1:33 PM

CM05, thanks for sharing. I understand where your coming from and will not try to persuede you into doing something your not comfortable with. There is alot to be said for showing your work, you said you had to "figure it out", information like that is invaluable to beginners as well as old timers. I applaud you for your restraint at the show however that moment shouldn't define your enjoyment. If you want to show do so, if not no harm. When I show I have very low expectations so a "lose" really doesn't matter to me. If someone doesn't like my technique or subject oh well they see it once for a couple hours, I look at it for ALOT longer on my shelf. We all have kits we wish we had done differently. The great thing about this hobby is most of the time you can buy a new kit and try again, expand your skills and overhaul the one ya got, either way your the only one you have to please. FYI Idon't mind losing, helps me become a better modeler. Good Luck and maybe we'll see some of your work here.

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Posted by shamoo on Friday, October 20, 2017 1:38 PM

Retired Air Force brat here, as well. I’m just getting back into the hobby myself.  I can understand being hesitant to show your work, given the quality of the work I’ve seen here. But in all honesty, I don’t think I’ve seen any negative criticism of any work thats been posted, just the helpful sort. I would got ahead and post some of your work and be pleasantly surprised at the feedback you receive. This seems to be a pretty friendly place. My $0.02 anyway. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, October 20, 2017 2:17 PM

I'm sure your models are much nicer than you give yourself credit for. I don't go to shows or enter contests because I don't need the humiliation, but I do like to show stuff here in progress.

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Posted by damouav on Friday, October 20, 2017 4:10 PM

GMorrison

I'm sure your models are much nicer than you give yourself credit for. I don't go to shows or enter contests because I don't need the humiliation, but I do like to show stuff here in progress.

 

" I don't need the humiliation" I hear you.

Constructive criticism on a build in my opinion can only help us build better projects. I was very unsure when posting my original build several months back, but I recieved great supportive feedback, this helps me stay interested. This builds confidence and allows you to build on your skill's, in turn allowing you to support others.

My very first post of anything online, for me, was here at FSM. Even though I was using computers when the first Apple, Commodore and ZX Sinclair just hit the stores as a consumer device.

Don't be concerened about posting, it's not about the finish, its about the journey to the finish.

In Progress
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger
Pending
1/48 Tamiya P-47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hasegawa P51-D
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
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Posted by the Baron on Friday, October 20, 2017 4:28 PM

Show us your work.  It's all about the hobby.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, October 20, 2017 4:29 PM

CaddMann, if you show your builds to us, here in these forums, is entirely up to you. But I would like to encourage you to do so. It's not only good for us, because it's always good to see some nice models. It's also good for you. Here you can make new friends. Some people will like your builds, they will tell you so and it's a nice feeling. Some people won't like your builds. Those people tend to not say anything at all on these forums. But sometimes they, or even I will tell you what we don't like. That's even better for you - maybe the feeling isn't as nice, but you might learn something. I always try to make my criticism constructive - say what could be done better and how. You are a grown man - you know it's only a hobby and people have different tastes and different points of view - you basically can't please anybody - but that's not what these forums are for, anyhow. Hope to see some of your work - thanks in advance and have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by fox on Friday, October 20, 2017 4:30 PM

I go to shows whenever I can. I really don't care whether I win anything or not. I like to meet other modelers, talk with others I have met before, learn new techniques and how others are making out with new products. I like finding out how I can improve my skills. I have a good time wandering around the vendor tables. Don't buy much unless it is something I need or a kit that really interests me. 

As soon as I get one of the hosting sights working good for me, I'll start posting pics again. PB really messed me up. Love doing WIPs also.

Jim  Captain

 

Photobucket Main WIP: Rebuild of Monogram 1/8 "Big Deuce" with 1/8 Pocher V-12 in rear - 10%

   On the Bench:   Revell 1/48 Ju 52/3m - 50%;  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 20% 

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 20, 2017 4:42 PM

I’ve posted every single build on here including my first build after a forty year hiatus.  It was a Revell P-61 Black Widow.  I got nothing but positive feed back on that build and every build thereafter.  And I build at a tremendous rate.  lol!  

Fast foward to the present, I’ve been here for almost three years now, and as my anniversary build, I’m building a Monogram P-61 Black Widow just to compare the two as well as a celebratory build.  My builds are anything but perfect, in fact they are mediocre at best compared to other FSM Forum Members.  

Check out my Black Widow thread/post and you’ll see what I’m talking about.  In the beginning I posted here because I was severely injured at work, TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) this is not only therapy for me but now I seriously enjoy the sharing and the fellowship it brings from all over the world.  These are tremendously fantastic people!  I’ve never met such human beings before and I’ve been all over the world.  

In summation, I now do this for fun and not to be criticized but to learn from everyone.  It’s ultimately up to you and it’s your decision to post your builds and we all respect that choice.  I wish you the best and good luck to you!

Toshi

 

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

ON THE BENCH:

Revell B-17G Flying Fortress 

NEXT BUILD:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61 via eBay, when it arrives, as always, I’ll do a WIP.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining this kit for my next build.

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, October 20, 2017 5:02 PM

CaddMan,

Everything stated before me is 100% true. I am completely new to modeling, and been in these forums for almost 2 years now. My first build I not only posted it, but I did a work in progress (WiP) to gain as much feedback and insight from the members as possible. What I got was overwhelming...tons of tips, suggestions, ideas and a lot of kind words.

Everyone in here is here for numerous reason....for the most part it is because of their love for this hobby. EVERYONE has gone out of their way to help me, teach me and just to bounce ideas off each other. Because of these individuals I will be apart of this group as long as the forums are here. Truely, a wonderful group of people that I call friends!

I hope one day you will take the "leap of faith" and post your work....you will be amazed by the response.

Hunter 

      

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Posted by Retired In Kalifornia on Friday, October 20, 2017 5:08 PM

I make crappy models, ain't afraid to show them off, so there...

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, October 20, 2017 6:48 PM

I build models and I don’t care what anyone’s says about my finished kit. It’s all about the feeling of satisfaction you’ve completed your kit. If you’re happy with it, who cares what others think.

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Posted by littletimmy on Friday, October 20, 2017 10:27 PM

You should have seen my first "actual" glue together kit.

The year was 1972..... Disco was in it's infancy.... and bell bottoms were all the rage.

A 6 year old Little Timmy (little little Timmy) had just spent his entire allowance on an AMT 1956 Ford victoria 3-n-1 (I built the drag version)  and proceded to make the biggest mess of a car you could possebly imagine!  I painted it in three different color's of blue.... none of which complemented each other..... ALL BY BRUSH! I didnt know what a spray can was untill I was 10. In an attempt to "hide" the mass of blobby Blue I took some binder re-enforcement ring's..... painted each one a different color... and stuck them all over the freash paint.

It looked like my car had crashed into a truck loaded with "Froot Loops "!

I showed this mess to anybody who couldn't run away !!!!

The point of all this is..... It does'nt matter what you're modle look's like......

As long as YOU like it...... every one else can go eat dirt !!!

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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Posted by Retired In Kalifornia on Friday, October 20, 2017 10:55 PM

littletimmy

You should have seen my first "actual" glue together kit.

The year was 1972..... Disco was in it's infancy.... and bell bottoms were all the rage.

A 6 year old Little Timmy (little little Timmy) had just spent his entire allowance on an AMT 1956 Ford victoria 3-n-1 (I built the drag version)  and proceded to make the biggest mess of a car you could possebly imagine!  I painted it in three different color's of blue.... none of which complemented each other..... ALL BY BRUSH! I didnt know what a spray can was untill I was 10. In an attempt to "hide" the mass of blobby Blue I took some binder re-enforcement ring's..... painted each one a different color... and stuck them all over the freash paint.

It looked like my car had crashed into a truck loaded with "Froot Loops "!

I showed this mess to anybody who couldn't run away !!!!

The point of all this is..... It does'nt matter what you're modle look's like......

As long as YOU like it...... every one else can go eat dirt !!!

 

I'd give anything to have my first build back, a 1961 Revell B-25 reissue, even was able to get the decals on. I'd hung the horrid thing on sewing thread below the bedroom ceiling light, clear as day it still is in memory...

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Posted by fermis on Friday, October 20, 2017 11:05 PM

One thing to keep in mind, regarding posting your work...

There's always going to be others with far less experience, that may be able to learn something from you....there's also going to be others with more experience/better build quality that can still learn something from you. Being "self taught", you may have another way of dealing with an issue that someone else hasn't figured out. It could be something that comes very simple to you, but not everybody thinks the same way!

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Posted by humper491 on Friday, October 20, 2017 11:05 PM
"crappy builds", but were having fun!!! I'm not one to speak out of turn, but look at Toshi. He's not lying. Look at Pawel, he speaks true. I don't post pictures a)don't know how. and of course #2, concerned of critisim. what i've learned here is everybody has respect, may give advice that you don't want to hear, but never disrespectful.. Helps at the end for the next build! TB has always said, even before i met him "have fun with it" 10-4

Humper Beam

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Posted by humper491 on Friday, October 20, 2017 11:07 PM
DOH!! Sorry, i left Fermis out!

Humper Beam

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Posted by templar1099 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:05 AM

We are our own worst critics.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 21, 2017 8:36 AM

Many of us also build paper models, or wood, or metal, etc.  I don't care what the materials are- just the question, "is this the best material for my project?"

Your modeling probably won't suffer for lack of posting pictures.  There is some enjoyment when your pictures receive good feedback after posting, but it is not as important as being in a club.

I doubt if I could list all the techniques I have either learned or improved upon by talking to my fellow modelers, or seeing demonstrations at meetings or contests.  And, being in a club, you will likely be aware of all the contests coming up in your area.  Contests, like racing with horses, improves the breed.  I have been a modeler for over seventy years now, and have seen tremendous advances in building techniques during that period.  I would say attending contests has been the most important influence in building up my modeling techniques. Even if you do not enter, just looking at the models entered, and studying the award winners, will show you what is possible (far more in viewing them yourself than by seeing pictures of them in magazines or online). 

If you decide to start posting photos, fine.  But do join a club.  I guarantee in a couple of years you will feel no regrets with the effort of driving to club meetings and contests.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:06 PM

Dont sweat posting photos of your models,no one will trash them.If you want the foru,m members to suggest advice or helpful hints to improve your models they will be happy to do so. This is a very supportive forum so have no fear!

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Posted by ManCityFan on Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:06 PM

I agree with all that has been said above.  I am extremely sensitive to criticism, but posted anyway.  I have been on the forum for about a year, and have received some very helpful constructive criticism, and I welcome it.  Some of it has been about technique, and some has been from very knowledgable members regarding the subject that they simply know more about than I do.

The first model I posted was a mess.  I got some positive comments and some constructive suggestions.  At no point did I feel belittled.  

My next project was better, and due mainly to the fine folks on this forum.  There are few people in my "real" world that care to see my work.  None of them can help me get better.  This forum has been an incredibly positive experience.  We get to share a hobby with others who also enjoy it.  I mean to say, the folks here "get it".  I truly value this.

I do hope someday you will be able to post a finished model, but if not, hey, that is OK.  Keep coming to the forum and sharing your experiences.  Plastaholics need to stick together.

As Pawel would say, have a nice day.

D

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:15 PM

Recently had a rather lengthy comment about this elsewhere.  

No one, and I mean no one, should ever feel they cannot post their work regardless if it is their first model or their latest.  Every member here has the absolute right to post their work, no exception.  With the massive swing from those posting their first works to those posting their latest competition/submission piece, all should be made to feel encouraged to show what they have done.  By the same token those who post should be allowed to feel they can post what they build and either receive encouragement and if they request it, even some instruction.  Our world has become such that at times that aspect is lost.  

 

Honestly if you feel hesitant to show your work, pick a few members that seem friendly and show them your work privately.  I am sure you will be encouraged to show it publicly but it can be a start for you.

 

 

Joe

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, October 22, 2017 10:07 PM

I completely understand your phobia, but I would be surprised if anyone on this site, in seeing photos of your builds, would have anything but positive comments.  The folks who post on this site are fellow modelers, we have all struggled at one point or another with what we build, and we all likely want some affirmation on our work.  But I find feedback to be a motivating factor that gets me beyond any fear of criticism (and regarding criticism, I am a Texas Aggie, and as such, one must have thick skin to be an Aggie, given our love-hate relationships with other Texas schools).

If you ever decide to post photos of your builds, I expect you'll like the feedback you get.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, October 22, 2017 10:14 PM

People on this forum are really well mannered. I forget that, and random searches for subjects that plop me down in other forums can be pretty hair raisng.

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Posted by Retired In Kalifornia on Sunday, October 22, 2017 11:47 PM

GMorrison

People on this forum are really well mannered. I forget that, and random searches for subjects that plop me down in other forums can be pretty hair raisng.

 

Wholly agree. I'd cut my teeth on Internet forum posting over on the two largest Susan Boyle fansites starting in 2009. You'd think everybody there is "civilized" given the majorty of active posters are women many if not most well over a decade older than I, No Way Jose!

Late summer 2010 a full-blown CIVIL WAR broke out amongst hundreds of Forum Website members, all the Moderators, well over a dozen of them, were locked out for nearly two weeks by The Keeper Of The Passwords who had a nervous breakdown, anybody could post anything, be nasty as one's heart desired, all out of view of The Larger World, only the Fox News website was worse, eye opening time indeed it was!

The websites today are mostly quiet, just the diehards are left, had lotta fun posting there, miss my friends not my detractors.

 

 

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Posted by Wildcatfan247 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:19 AM
World's worst handyman here. I'm horrible at anything with my hands, thank goodness I've been able to create a good living with my brain. I know where you are coming from. I see some of the models some of these guys create and wonder how nice it would be to be able to create something like that. One of the reasons I model is because I can attempt to be creative and if it doesn't work out just throw the model in a box without costing a ton of money. I am starting to buy kits that are easier to build and have even thought about getting some snap-tight kits just to have something to paint that is easy to put together. I can't imagine ever creating something good enough to show on the net or put in a show.
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Posted by Wildcatfan247 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:31 AM

littletimmy

You should have seen my first "actual" glue together kit.

The year was 1972..... Disco was in it's infancy.... and bell bottoms were all the rage.

A 6 year old Little Timmy (little little Timmy) had just spent his entire allowance on an AMT 1956 Ford victoria 3-n-1 (I built the drag version)  and proceded to make the biggest mess of a car you could possebly imagine!  I painted it in three different color's of blue.... none of which complemented each other..... ALL BY BRUSH! I didnt know what a spray can was untill I was 10. In an attempt to "hide" the mass of blobby Blue I took some binder re-enforcement ring's..... painted each one a different color... and stuck them all over the freash paint.

It looked like my car had crashed into a truck loaded with "Froot Loops "!

I showed this mess to anybody who couldn't run away !!!!

The point of all this is..... It does'nt matter what you're modle look's like......

As long as YOU like it...... every one else can go eat dirt !!!

 

Can't remember what kind of car my first model kit was, it was a Christmas present when I was 9-10ish but it was cast in pink.  Couldn't afford paint.  Glue all over it.  I remember for some reason i had to take part of the sprue and use as an axle.  Glued it to the chassis and glued the wheels to the axle/sprue.  I left it on the living room floor and my oldest sister came in carrying a bag of groceries and didn't see it and stepped on it.  Broke it to a million pieces.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:37 AM

Yes we all have gluebomb storie from the before time but thankfully we are all much better now.It is cool to take a box full of parts and make a unified whole model from them.Very satisfying, 

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Posted by CaddMann05 on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:21 AM

I want to thank each and everyone of you for answering my post with class and dignity as fellow modelers whose goal in this forum is to uplift the spirits as well as the ability to inspire myself as well as others to greater feats in this great hobby.

THANK YOU!!!

I feel I have a better understanding about posting my projects whether I feel it's worthy or not.  It's just like Templar1099 stated, "We are our own worst critic."  So very true.

I will start posting just a soon as I figure out how to do it. I know there is a discussion about what photo sharing websites to use and which is best, so I will refer to that for help.

Thanks again for the input.

 

 

Varity is the spice of life. Chef

caddmann05 Cowboy Geeked

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:09 PM

Cool!I look forward to seeing pics of your models!

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