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How many times have you said: "Enough is enough"?

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How many times have you said: "Enough is enough"?
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:34 PM

How many time have you said: 'Enough is enough" with a build and put the thing aside for another day, week or month?

I am working on a 1/48 scale Monogram B-58 Hustler. It is an exasperating build. Large seams, out of alaigned seams, alaignment pins that do not line up with their holes, etc., etc.

Look at that seam on the tail section. It is out of alaignment by 1/16". This seam is on the underside of the fuselage. The seam on top of the fuselage is perfect, so I can't just realign the tail section.

The alaignment pin is out of alaignment with its hole. 

I  had to cut off the left two alaignment pins on the tank and install new pins because the original pins were out of alaignment with their holes.

That joint is an 1/8" wide. 

The two sides of the four bombs are different diameters. More unnecessary sanding.

This build is no fun because I am spending so much time fixing poor manufacturing details. Time for a cocktail and time to put it aside and return to the B-24J.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:51 PM

There's no shame in that, John.

I think kits like that were sold more for the "wow" factor than anything else.

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Posted by RX7850 on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:37 PM

J.K

I feel for you . It's unfortunate when a model becomes more of a chore andl less of a joy. Might be a good idea to take that  break and revisit it when your ready again.

Good luck.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:48 PM

I find that a "Healthy" dose of Bottle Rocket's , can fix any problem seam...... sometime's GAS will work too ...

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage".

  

 

    

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Posted by RX7850 on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:57 PM

Those bottle rockets were  the remedy for many a model kit back when I was a kid.

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Posted by Jay Jay on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 9:55 PM

Oh good grief. I just got this kit and was looking forward to building it. very disapointing news Mate but ty for the heads up.

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:33 AM
I think all of us over the years have trashed a few kits,I know I have,sometimes it stops being fun or is beyond help.

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Posted by ManCityFan on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:20 AM

Yup, been there, done that.  Was working on an old (very old) Zero kit, and the wing root was a full 1/16 inch "taller" than the wing where they joined.  I could fix it by putting shims in the wings, but then the front of the wing will be too short.  Almost sent it on a no prop "test flight" into the wall.  And this after spending a lot of time on the pit.

Rather than trying to fix it, I am going to get a better Zero kit, and use this one to practice decals, since that is a skill I really need to work on.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:52 AM

Jay Jay

Oh good grief. I just got this kit and was looking forward to building it. very disapointing news Mate but ty for the heads up.

 

I did not mean to ruin your modeling experience of his kit. If I were you I would still proceed with building the kit. However, it is better to know what the problems are before starting on the kit. Go here for additional solutions to problems with this kit.: http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/178237.aspx

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:27 AM

I have a couple of shelves right above my workbench that I call my Shelves of Doom.  These are the builds that I had trouble with- and sometimes trouble means too long a build and I am bored-, that I plan to finish someday (and I do finish one from those shelves occasionally).  I have never counted them, but I believe there are about two dozen up there.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by UnwaryPaladin on Saturday, April 28, 2018 3:10 PM

There are the kits that are so bad I'm never going to finish, those I set aside because I know I'm in over my head, and those that I'm just bored with. 

I only do this for fun, so if the fun factor isn't there I'm not going to waste my time. 

Revell kits seem to occupy the most space in the Box of Doom under my work table. They just don't have the nostalgia factor to make the build worthwhile. I built them as a kid, but more often than not they would last a year or so then we would stuff them with firecrackers...

For nostalgia, it would be the Movie Monster models for me! Out of my price range today, for what they are. I remember saving up the $3 for the Rodan model I wanted so badly. It cost twice as much as the other monster kits! I could put up with the seams and poor fit today to finish one of those again!

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Posted by Cardboad_killer on Sunday, May 06, 2018 12:26 PM
Newbie here, and I've just experienced that with my first try. I bit off more than I could chew, put the kit away and pulled out the easiest kit I've ever seen, one of Hobbyboss's Easy kits. It did make me resolve that, at least until I become a real expert and not an novice, I am only going to buy kits that have great reviews for fit and finish. I know I'm being a wuss about it, but if it isn't fun, I'm not going to do it--too little time left before I take the long sleep.

Thank you, Brian

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Posted by Temujin on Sunday, May 06, 2018 2:05 PM

I've had a handful over the years that have been set aside.

If it becomes a chore, that's a bad mindset for modeling.

I went through that with a Simba 8x8, started off six guns ablazin'.

A couple of months in, it got the point where I just wanted it to be over.

I lost interest and couldn't figure out why.

Then it dawned on me...the darn thing looks like a toy.

Of course, this isn't my build. Mine was slapdash at best

Simba 8x8

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, May 07, 2018 8:38 AM

I had another thought about saying enough!  That is when I contemplate saying "enough- I have such a big stash now!  I am never going to be able to build what I have."  How many times have I said that?  Seven? Paraphrasing the bible- no, seven times seventy times seventy!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 11:12 AM

Hi;

 I do have to ask . Is yours the version that drops the Nuclear Weapon Pod ?If so no wonder . It was actually , even to me , more toy than accurate model . Mainly Because of the lousy parts fit !

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:15 PM

It has a nucular pod that is attached to the fuselage. It is not the version with a button that releases the bomb. The pod is a combination nucular bomb and external fuel tank. It is huge.

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:20 AM

Welcome to the world of old Monogram kits JK. They have some nice models but it takes tons of plastic card and filler to get things right on some of them.

Presently I'm working on the old Monogram F-102 and 106, both great looking kits with nice molded details but watch out for parts that don't line up and gaping seam lines along the bottom of the leading wing edges. This area alone required several fill and sand sessions not to mention replacing the sanded details.

I then hit a brick wall with the 102's canopy frame and clear canopy fit. Took me a while to figure out how to close up the gaps and make the fit look half way decent using thick CA and sanding to close up the gaps at the rear frame line.

The best approach when dealing with these issues if one gets frustated then set it aside and walk away. Start again fresh with a clear mind. 

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a day.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 11:38 AM

I am also working on a Monogram B-24J. It is going together just fine. Except for the joint at the engine nacelles, there are no real fit problems. I do not understand why the B-58 has such problems. It's almost as if nobody at Monogram assembled the model before it was released for sale.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:04 PM

Yes that seam on the B58 is pretty nasty!But it could be ground down.Rarely do I give up on a bad kit but sometimes I shelve a kit due to Boredom.Did not mess the kit up,just lost interest.

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:37 PM

I've said enough is enough.  I research kits before buying.  Yet here I am building the old ESCI kfir for my aggressor collection and the shelf of doom build...filling sanding priming sanding....

Thanks,

John

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:54 AM

philo426

Yes that seam on the B58 is pretty nasty!But it could be ground down.Rarely do I give up on a bad kit but sometimes I shelve a kit due to Boredom.Did not mess the kit up,just lost interest.

 

I have spent many hours on the B-58 so I will not abandon it. I'll get back to it after I finish the B-24J. The other issue is that with Winter gone I spend a lot time out of doors.

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Posted by Putsie on Thursday, May 10, 2018 3:24 PM

More than once I gave up and put it back in the box.  One vacuform kit. an F-89. was on the shelf on and off for about seven years before it was finished.  Dont think of it as a problem, just put it away and come back "fresh" later.

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Posted by tankboy51 on Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:29 PM

Just waiting for inspiration on a couple right now.

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Posted by murph on Friday, May 11, 2018 6:49 AM

Twice.  A 1/72 Hobbycraft Canada military Dash 8 and an AMT 1/24 Ford Mustang Mach 1.  Both were pieces of absolute doggie doo-doo.  Both went into File 13 well before there was any hope of completion.

Retired and living the dream!

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  • From: Newington CT
Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, May 11, 2018 7:01 AM

There was that time with the Italeri 1/72 Tornado.  It accidentally fell off my bench and I stepped on it 3 or 4 timesOops

 

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