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Modeling in Europe
Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Friday, January 25, 2019 12:23 PM

Hello everyone. I may be moving to Europe for a time and was wondering wht the modeling scene is like there. Is building tanks and warplanes frowned upon as they are against anything war-like?

   

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Posted by NucMedTech on Friday, January 25, 2019 12:30 PM

I would not think that you would have any problems with those types of models. Looking at RoG kits, they have plenty to choose from. I have also looked at European modeling shows on youtube and there is plenty of armor and airplanes from both axis and allies displayed. Good luck if you make the move, should be a great experience.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 25, 2019 12:31 PM

Sailing_Dutchman

Hello everyone. I may be moving to Europe for a time and was wondering wht the modeling scene is like there. Is building tanks and warplanes frowned upon as they are against anything war-like?

 

Not sure what part of Europe you are going to, don't forget, despite what the EU might think, Europe is not a single country so every one is different. Not sure where you get the idea that Europe is against anything war like. In the UK it certainly is not frowned upon and i have seen plenty of people from the rest of Europe. The only thing you have to worry about is displaying the crooked cross in a couple of countries.

There are some great online stores as well, some of the best ones i have seen are in Germany and Eastern Europe is a growing source.

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Friday, January 25, 2019 12:41 PM

I would specificaly be moving to the Netherlands, and from what I have been told by my family who lives there they would like no mention of any arms or military items.

   

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 25, 2019 12:55 PM

Sailing_Dutchman

I would specificaly be moving to the Netherlands, and from what I have been told by my family who lives there they would like no mention of any arms or military items.

 

Sailing_Dutchman

I would specificaly be moving to the Netherlands, and from what I have been told by my family who lives there they would like no mention of any arms or military items.

 

Really. Well, i won't argue with some one who lives there but i have never heard anything like that. We have a couple of guys in our model club who go to shows in the Netherlands, and they have not mentioned anything.

This is a couple of years old but but is of a model show there.

https://imodeler.com/2017/10/scale-model-challenge-2017-veldhoven-the-netherlands/

And one of the biggest model shows in Europe, Euro Scale Modelling, takes place there.

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Friday, January 25, 2019 3:26 PM

I know a lot of modellers all over Europe and all they build is military kits - Even in Holland!

You can get Tamiya, Amusing Hobby, Zoukei-Mura and all sorts of stuff. There are many model show you can go to and nobody will tell you what and what not to build.

The only thing to watch out for, but only in Germany I think is no Swastikas.

The major show in Europe is IPMS UK and that is Scale Model World at Telford here in the UK. It is a huge 2 day show with people & manufacturers attending from all over the world!

Last year the queue to get in was 2 hours long and went out and around the car park twice!

Nobody can tell you what to build over here!

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, January 25, 2019 5:01 PM

These guys are a HUGE online store in The Netherlands.

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, January 25, 2019 6:27 PM

Modeling is huge in Europe. Way more popular than it will ever be in the States. 

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:27 AM

Look at this site

Meindert deVreeze is a huge builder from Amsterdam

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:19 AM

Sailing_Dutchman

I would specificaly be moving to the Netherlands, and from what I have been told by my family who lives there they would like no mention of any arms or military items.

 

I think that is more of a personal feeling than a general situation. 

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:16 PM

stikpusher
I think that is more of a personal feeling than a general situation.

Sounds like it. If I recall correctly, there's more than a few members here who are from The Netherlands. 

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Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:30 PM

Seems like it would just be your family that is requesting that. I am sure they have reasons their reasons. If you are going to be living with or visiting them i am sure you will respect them.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:12 AM

Phil_H

 

 
stikpusher
I think that is more of a personal feeling than a general situation.

 

Sounds like it. If I recall correctly, there's more than a few members here who are from The Netherlands. 

 

One of them, Dutch-Modeller, just posted a B-17 build yesterday. I am guessing he doesn't have issues with military subjects.

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:59 AM

Well, it looks like it will not be a problem. My relatives are very pro-gun and may be exaggerating the problems so I thought that I would get some more opinions. Thank you everyone for your input.

   

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Posted by Silver on Friday, February 01, 2019 4:13 PM

I have lived in Europe for many years -Germany.Its no big change.The kits which you would  purchase there are 99% Revell.France is the same w/Heller and England w/airfix and so on.But when I traveled to Spain.I encountered the most Bret taking models on any store displays.Spain had twice the hobby model shops than any other country there.Also they have more selections than revell and heller.Remember that amazon and eBay orders are in europe to choose from.Europe is fine.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, February 01, 2019 4:30 PM

Right, Silver. And not only that, but if one is interested in any subjects pre-oh say 1776, it's most all from Europe. I'm thinking in particular of military miniatures.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, February 01, 2019 4:52 PM

Sailing_Dutchman

Well, it looks like it will not be a problem. My relatives are very pro-gun.

 

That's probably more the issue. It's difficult to own guns in most European countries for anything beyond hunting and target shooting, and forget about owning an assault rifle in Holland.

I have lived in Europe several different times in my life. There are some absolutely fantastic military museums, on a national scale that doesn't exist here in the US.

Most every major city has one. 

You'll always have to mind some local sensibilities, like not modeling NVA subjects back in the 70's here in the US, but nothing extraordinary.

You'll have instant access to more Napoleanic information and subjects than you could ever assimilate. Have fun!

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Friday, February 01, 2019 5:02 PM

If it is Napoleonic you are interested in then there are lots of battlefields that you can visit and walk. Waterloo is a really interesting field with markers all over the place and you can visit the farms involved. the battlefield is not really as it was. the slope on the British/allied side is not as steep as it was as lots of earth was moved from it to make the lion monument, even so, if you visit with the right weather conditions then you will find out just how hard it was for the French to assault up the hill!

One of my Ancestors fought there and in the Peninsular War.

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Posted by The Drifter on Friday, February 01, 2019 5:10 PM

Nathan T

Modeling is huge in Europe. Way more popular than it will ever be in the States. 

 

Absolutely correct. If you look online a lot of the top scale modellers hale from Europe.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, February 04, 2019 12:26 PM

Lots of WW2 display pieces at many historic battle sites.

In Germany, if I bought a German WW2 armor kit, the box had been opened and the offending Nazi marks and SS markings were defaced with a splot of black paint. Instructions too.

My family is from Holland, and I did buy a kit there once, but it was a modern Leopard.

I should also mention that if there is a major "anniversary" like a 45th, 50th, 75th of some military event, you should try to attend. They are quite a spectacle.

I went to the 50th anniversary of the evacuation of Dunkirk and the 45th anniversary of D-Day. Lots of good displays and vintage vehicles came out for folks to see.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:08 AM

GMorrison

Right, Silver. And not only that, but if one is interested in any subjects pre-oh say 1776, it's most all from Europe. I'm thinking in particular of military miniatures.

 

The figures are quite big over here. There area couple of guys in the model club i belong to who produce the most amazing work often of 18th and 19th century figures. There used to be a big show in the UK called Euro Millitaire but thats now stopped thanks in part i believe to bigger shows on the Continant.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:11 AM

There is a museum in the Netherlands that i have heard is a must to visit for WW2 enthusiats, at Overloon. Once a year they have a Litracks event whereyou can get to ride in military vehicles. One guy i know who went took great pleasure in telling me about his ride in a 251 and watching me get very envious as he told me.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 4:08 AM

Overloon is a DEFINITE "must see"! I have not been there for the annual Militracks event, but have been to the museum, and it is one of the best! There's also a nice hobby shop near the entrance, where you can pick up some great kits.  And as long as you're visiting there, you might as well check out some of the Market Garden related sites, as Overloon is very close to Njimegen and Arnhem.  The Airborne Museum at Hartenstein (Arnhem) is a standout attraction, and of course the John Frost Bridge (the "bridge too far").

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 4:25 AM
As an American who has been living in Europe (Bavaria) for over eight years now, I can tell you that military modelling is indeed very popular. However, in Germany you may get a lot of flak if you display the swastika on your models (they're the reason why a lot of kits don't include swastika decals any more). I would say that there aren't as many shows as there are in the USA, where one chapter or another of IPMS-USA is putting on a show/contest seemingly every weekend! But there are indeed some nice ones, and they are huge. Plus, you can get a ton of new products that aren't as easily available in the USA, from Eastern European companies such as Eduard, ICM, Mini-Art, etc. I would recommend highly the annual Moson Show in Mosonmagyarovar, Hungary (very near to the border of Austria and Slovakia, only about 25 km from Bratislava).

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Posted by Rotorhead13 on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 8:04 AM

I spent 5 years in Germany and saw an awful lot of Europe. I agree with everything everybody else has told you already, but I thought the air shows were worth mentioning. I swear there's one somewhere every month. My unit sent a helicopter to most of them, and what I remember most is how people from every country attending smothered us in alcohol. We'd give out bottles of booze also, but what they wanted most was Green Giant stickers. If you are interested in anything currently in the military over there, with plenty of vintage aircraft still flying, then go to a few airshows.

Also, one thing I remember about the Netherlands was they required you to know the language before you could get a job. Don't know if that's still true, nor even what your plans are there, but you might want to check on that if you are seeking employment. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 8:18 AM

GMorrison

Right, Silver. And not only that, but if one is interested in any subjects pre-oh say 1776, it's most all from Europe. I'm thinking in particular of military miniatures.

 

I do recall a shop somewhere in Budapest that had a great selection of pre painted white metal soldier figures from the Imperial eras. They were about 54mm size and covers the various countries armies and soldier types. Dragoon’s, Grenadiers, Hussars, etc.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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