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What is a REAL Master Modeler ?

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
What is a REAL Master Modeler ?
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, February 28, 2019 4:47 PM

 Aha , Got your attention didn't I ?

     Well , I could start by saying , " Someone who builds lotsa models and wins lotsa awards ." NOT necessarily True . Masters are those who have put their life into something they love and then felt able to teach others where to start and how to proceed . 

  A Master Modeler . ? That's someone who has chosen one of the hardest proffessions or paying Hobbies in the world . Why did I say Hobby ? Did you know that many folks feel that what we do as adults is play with expensive toys . They don't see any future there .But they will lay odds on a football game and don't even play the game . They do , Those hardcases , lose more money in one game than I have made in a year sometimes .

   But they profess to really know the game .

 I have NEVER professed to really have known modeling . Why ? well there's aspects of it I have never actually done ! Now , how's that for a surprise .?  Yup , it's true . I have however worked both in a  Movie Studio and in a firm that does proffessional Civic models and Golf Courses Et Al . What did I do in the latter? I did all the work they normally turned away because of no knowledge of the criteria necessary to achieve in a courtroom Model . 

 What did I do in the Former Studio setting .T.V. Commercial set pieces and For movies as part of a team , with knowledge that just doesn't walk in any door . That being A Masters Degree in Ship Building with the Emphasis on Design and construction Thereof. Seems I chose to pick a line of study while I was learning it Pretty Much moved away from North America and mainly the States . I would NOT move the family to Italy ,South Korea or Japan to pursue This line of work either . .

      So I did other constructive things and also enriched my learning with an associates Degree in the construction of Bridges and Manufacturing Facilities . I think they call it " Civil Engineering with an emphasis on Useful Buildings ."

 I actually knew of a civil Engineering company that had No Employees that had ever done a model of anything they'd designed or were responsible for getting built . They only drew what the client wanted . I set up an office in the same building . What kind of  office ? Well , A Model Building Studio .

 In the first month I had signed contracts with four of the firms in the same building to build their Presentation Miniatures . I would've called them models . They said that didn't sound proffessional to their clients .

 I then got som Pro - Bono ( Free ) work from the State .A model of a Arkansas River Riverboat Called the " River of Commerce " For the Legislative Library Museum .

 Then The Convention Center ( They hadn't broken Ground Yet .) In Little Rock , had a Cocktail Lounge called the Edgewater Lounge . It was decorated with many one of a kind SteamBoat Paintings .Rich Woods and Trimming in the SteamBoat style . They Commissioned Me to build a model for them . A Steam Boat ( Stern-Wheel vessel With No hull below the waterline ( That part , they thought would be Museum Boring ")I built the Edgewater princess on a tight timeline .The day the lounge had their Grand Opening she was on display , But forty hours from Finished .I got mobbed trying to remove her for completion . really ! Then She was displayed in a beautifully wrought Case of 1/4" lexan , With breathing holes Drilled thereof and placed on twisted clear lexan Square Rod ,  . She looked like she was floating in the air . The bottom of the case was a furniture like base of fine woods polished to a fine sheen . She resided there for Eight years . Where she is now I do not know .

 Many models and firms later ( Law , Real estate Developers and Commercial Building Contracting Firms ), I went back to my first love ,Ships ! 

 Many for the companies I worked with . The Last for Clean Bay/Clean Seas in the San Francisco area . Plus one for a personal Gift for then Clean Seas CEO and owner .

    Am I now a Master ? I don't know .I build for Museums of many types and private individuals when I want to and I do get  work on venerable Steam and Sail ,Model ships to Restore and have done two significant small privately owned models of historic , Sail  ,the Schooner ( Topsail )( The Elise ) and the Slave Ship " Amistad " .

  I do "H.O." and " N " scale ships ( Scratch ) for me . I do regular plastic kits 1/400 , 1/350 and 1/32 and 1/72 and any box scale , for me and then the models of buildings for my Museum of which I am a board member as well . Oh , and for two years I led a class of novice modelers at the Martinez , Ca , V.A. facility Occupational Therapy Dept . I graduated 85% of the guys and ladies . From crafting ( Model Building Classes ). Am I a Master ? I dunno  , The V.A. national Crafts Contest Granted to me a Gold Medal for a odel Ship , Silver for a Plane then a Bronze for a Car , Am I A Master ? You tell me . My students talked my dept.supervisor to enter them without me knowing Because they wanted me to get some kind of acknowledgment for helping them . Again , Am I a Master ? Who Knows ?  Tanker - Builder   

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:29 PM

Hmmm... as of late you’ve been busy posting long topics on various things related to the hobby. Your stash getting thin? Just yanking your chain. LOL!

I find your observations interesting though.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:32 PM

TB--you have all these projects and no pictures? Or links to the museum that shows them? Let's see your work man. It sounds like cool stuff. Yes

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  • From: Lancaster, South Carolina
Posted by Devil Dawg on Saturday, March 2, 2019 1:07 AM

I can give you an honest answer, Tanker - I AIN'T a master builder!! Toast Propeller

Devil Dawg

On The Bench: Tamiya 1/32nd Mitsubishi A6M5 Model 52 Zeke For Japanese Group Build

Build one at a time? Hah! That'll be the day!!

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 2, 2019 6:33 AM

Just some opinions, but here they are.  While there may be masters who never compete, I am not sure how one identifies them.  However, if they do compete, the masters are the ones that bring home lots of awards from competitions.  To me, one is not a master if one does not ever build a model from scratch, or a major conversion or modification using raw materials rather than aftermarket parts.  Another mark of a master is one who passes on his techniques to newer modelers rather than holding them as secrets.  One might study the history of the old apprentice/journyman/master method of learning a craft or profession in the days before trade schools and engineering schools. 

While not a requirement for a master, I notice a charactoristic of those I think of as master modelers join model clubs and associations, and volunteer to help run these groups.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:39 AM

Hi Bakster :

     To give you a definitive answer .No , I know pictures would go a long way to help .Until about six years ago I did NOT have a digital camera .With some help I got from another modeler here I learned how to post photos ! ( Thank You , Marcus McBean ! ) But my first camera now rests in a landfill and the second I haven't used yet . All the pictures I have are hard copy only . Some quite old so I don't take them out much .The Scrap Book is incomplete ( I won't go into the reason for that .)When I get the hang of the new equipment I will Post again .I kind of like doing that !  T.B. Some of the photos were rescued after a natural Disaster !

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:41 AM

Don;

 I can't travel much so I share skills with those in the Museum and visitors who visit . Everything I do for Real Modeling is scratch .It's the only thing I know .I do Box models for a pleasant break from doing all the work meself ! T.B.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:45 AM

Dear Mr.Dawg !

    What's new in your corner of the world ? You know , with all I have done and enjoyed I Never considered Myself a Master . That's why I figured to let other modelers decide for me . Who knows one day I may be . T.B.  

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:48 AM

Hi Again .  

  If you go to NBRRM .com , on line You'll get the museum page . That stands for the New Braunfels Railroad Museum . Therein you'll see some of my work such as San Antonio Street in Downtown N.B. This is my most current stuff .  T.B. P.S. I don't know how to set up a link either ! Sorry !

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:52 AM

Hi , Black Sheep 214 !

 Listen , all I can do now on some days is write .Can't see well on those days .Sooo , I share . My face right now , is three  to four inches from the keyboard . When I can model then, , you don't hear from me .  T.B. . 

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:57 AM

Tanker - Builder

Dear Mr.Dawg !

    What's new in your corner of the world ? You know , with all I have done and enjoyed I Never considered Myself a Master . That's why I figured to let other modelers decide for me . Who knows one day I may be . T.B.   

Wow! No one has ever called me "Mr." here before....I feel special! Propeller

Nothing new over here, other than I have a job that keeps me on the road way more than I should let it (which ain't really new, I guess). But, I have decided this new year to get some modeling done, so I have completed one (Hasegawa's 1/72nd SR-71A), and am starting another one (Tamiya's 1/32nd A6M5 Zeke) for a Japanese Group Build here on FineScale.

How's about yew?

Gary Mason

 

Devil Dawg

On The Bench: Tamiya 1/32nd Mitsubishi A6M5 Model 52 Zeke For Japanese Group Build

Build one at a time? Hah! That'll be the day!!

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:54 AM

Ah,Mr.Mason ;

 It's okay if I call you that , right ? Naw , phooey .Gary ;

 I managed to pull out the old " Shell Welder " and it looks like it's her year .Cleaned her up and now it's detail time .(the stuff done , Before Priming ).    T.B.

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Posted by GreySnake on Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:41 AM
Back in 2003-2004 while browsing my LHS. A gentleman brought in a fully scratch build 1/16 M1A1 Abrams. That’s someone that I would consider a master modeler. I can’t imagine how much work and time had to go into it.
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Posted by Silver on Monday, March 11, 2019 11:29 AM

No such thing as a master modeler.If so.; anyone who builds a Lindberg model and enters and wins the nationals .Then that person should be crowned a master.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, March 14, 2019 10:10 AM

You Know:

 I think I would consider that person a " Master Kit Modeler " . A " master " I believe can work in any medium . Now Lindbergs kits ain't easy . That's for sure .I always use them for say, Hulls for instance .The rest goes in th parts box .

 Very accurate ship models made of bone and ivory came out of prisons in the old days .They , in some instances were considered Masters !

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Posted by Blaine on Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:27 PM

This thread interested me because of the term "Master". My father inlaw was considered a master custom car builder, or at least that title was given to him by his peers. I must admit the work he did rivaled anything I had ever seen or seen since. 

I once asked him about him being refered to as a master technician, builder. His opinion it was just a title, he said what made him any different than others was that he was a perfectionist and his work had to be perfect in his eyes. He said if someone can produce something better than anyone else I suppose that would make him a master, he didn't feel he deserved that title, I however do. 

As for me, I haven't mastered anything. 

Life is not about getting out of the storm, but learning to dance in the rain.

Don't tip to through life only to end up at deaths door. 

VS 82, VP40, VP31 

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