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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:11 AM

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, September 22, 2019 9:10 AM

To me it is all about the art my latest attests to that!  

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:56 AM

HI there;

    I would say do this. Build to your heart and mind's desire. There is a Category at I.P.M.S. shows called " What-If's" . Think, though, They still ask that it be well thought out. Carefully assembled and Documented IF possible.

     There has to be a certain amount of stability so that's what the rules are for . Not really for you personally. They are there to give organisational stability to a venue that could turn into a free for all of really dis-jointed creations.

 I used to do some weird stuff when I was younger. I always entered it in OOPS-OOB. Never got kicked out, Didn't win a prize,but had fun anyway.   T.B. 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:13 AM

Building custom cars allows you a lot of creativity.  Models in that category do not need to be a model of a specific real car.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Ted4321 on Monday, September 16, 2019 8:37 PM

Check out the silly egg group build.  There's a Pink Panther tank. Hot pink.  

Also there's a guy here in the forum that builds anti-gravity models.  If I haven't misunderstood, I believe his models are his own design.  

I guess none of the above has to do with competitions though. 

T e d

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, September 16, 2019 1:10 PM

A few years back there was a guy in the local IPMS club who was 'creative'.  He adorned his models with found items and hunks of sprue (not stretched sprue, cut-offs of sprue).  He brought a frame of sprue with the parts cut out.  The airplane form was interesting, but ...  His stuff wasn't well thought out like a Borg cube,  it was just thrown together

His creations were crudely assembled with glue marks showing.   When he painted, it was by hand with many brush marks and or fingerprints..  

He never did well in any competition because the others in the cateories were better done, craftsmanship, assembly, painting, etc.  He never listened to our critiques on how he could improve his work.   He was happy with what he was doing

If you desire to play in the IPMS arena, or almost any other organization's competition you have to understand the rules and agree to play by them.   If you can't play with them, then choose not to play or work to change the rules.

I have no problem with a red-painted tank or a chartruse aircraft, or a polka-dot Arizona (at the height of the color controversy), as long as the craftsmanship of the assembly is there.   Seams addressed, alignment correct, paint has no runs, no drips, no errors (to quote Johnny Bench and the Krylon commercial.   That is the gospel that IPMS has been preaching for more than 50 years.   (And its always better if you have photo documentation of that red tank ;>)

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:07 AM

Billmc

I was wondering could we have a category for creativity?

 

There are often hypothetical categories at model shows. This would be models not in normal paint schemes or made up livery. For instance, if a Harrier jet is in Blue Angels markings or some of those Girls und Panzers in the pink colors.

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Posted by Billmc on Sunday, September 15, 2019 8:46 PM
No not kit bashing as changing it intieraly, but I guess from my perspective, I guess judging would consider it kit bashing. No I just was thinking along the lines of having a border look at the mofels.
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Posted by Billmc on Sunday, September 15, 2019 8:43 PM

Your right there is always great new ways to build and expand there, adding different things that are not out there on the open market. I am pointing to more that Sherman tank for example, I find that more then not, everyone will build them to replicate  the actual  tank, and very little of there own creativity,  now this is from my view. I just think if we could add something into the judging more people would do more of that.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:17 AM

Billmc are you thinking along the lines of kit-bashing; taking different pieces of different models and creating something totally different? Or maybe something more wild like the salvadore dali rendition in a plastic model? 

There’s some really new stuff out there. Like you, I don’t think it’s main stream now but it’s there and i love looking at the cool things people create. There’s some examples of that taking off, like the wedge style in dioramas i think.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:09 AM

I suggest a better term might be "broaden", than "change".

Contest rules are contest rules, I don't model for them, mostly because I don't like to travel to them. But to me a "scale model" is pretty much just that.

The left brain thinker is considered to be more methodical and analytical, the right brain creative and artistic.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:48 AM

Billmc

Or just change how we look at builds and put in there effort and creativity?. It seems we look just for perfection, to look like it roll off the battle field or assemble  plant. 

Now I don't  want to re-invent the wheel just add a twist to looking at models?. If not that's ok, I love the way I build, it's the only way I know, if I can remember what I learn. I might get better today lol.

 

Im not quite sure that I understand what you mean by creativity. Everybody puts some degree of effort into their builds. Now as far a creativity goes, there are minimalists who go straight out of box, and folks at the opposite end of the spectrum who add so much to a kit that it is hardly recognizable compared to the original kit. Finishes? Those run the gamut from pristine, to severely used. And again, varying levels of creativity are used to achieve any of those looks. 

I am consistently amazed with new techniques invented by folks far more creative than I in this Hobby. Especially those who use outside the box improvised materials.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:10 AM

I think what your saying is the same as realistic v artistic modelling. I see plenty of both but artistic does seem to be the most common style these days. So your not as alone as you might think.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Billmc on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:08 AM

Yes they do,but the difference is how we look at them, and weather we accept it ( like a red tank, compare to the others?)

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Posted by Billmc on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:05 AM

Or just change how we look at builds and put in there effort and creativity?. It seems we look just for perfection, to look like it roll off the battle field or assemble  plant. 

Now I don't  want to re-invent the wheel just add a twist to looking at models?. If not that's ok, I love the way I build, it's the only way I know, if I can remember what I learn. I might get better today lol.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, September 15, 2019 10:02 AM

I’ll bet that your creative models will still fall under whatever subject categories we already have here. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Traditional vs creative building
Posted by Billmc on Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43 AM

So to start with I build millitary, just about everything, but focus on ww 2.

I look at my building as the Andy Worehall of Model building. It's never traditional, it's at times pretty loud, and a use of a lot of my left side of my brain, lol.i have a lot of medical issues that keep me from exceeding my abiltys( but I still strive to get better everyday) so I have instead gone the other way. I build to my ability and add a lot of my non traditional creative juices.

Not this last nationals, but more 2018, I walkamong the .models and thought wow they all look a lot alike?, and really nail down my love of putting my own ideas into my build, and letting my mistakes go with the model. I was wondering could we have a category for creativity?

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