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As The years go By

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:31 PM

I'm old enough (I turn 56 a week from today) to remember the Aurora military model displays at the local department store called Britt's.

I couldn't afford those kits as a kid. I do remember buying kits in little plastic bags with cardboard headers that were Airfix. Those 1/76-1/72 kits were under a dollar and more in my price range.

If I got a "big" gift like a $5 bill, I could get the bigger Aurora kits.

Any way, the build up Aurora displays were very inspirational to me as a young boy.

  • Member since
    July 2016
  • From: Malvern, PA
Posted by WillysMB on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:34 AM

There is a fairly active Guillows Model Builders Forum sponsored by the Guillows company. The stick and tissue group is far from extinct, and the new laser cut wood is far superior to the old die - crushed parts. Some of the scale show models are amazing, and there's a fairly active group converting from rubber to electric power. In Europe a popular pursuit is indoor, flying scale using large gyms. One guy had an Me-323 Gigant with electric power, but still free-flight, that took off, circled the gym several times just below the rafters, then landed perfectly - totally amazing.

Geneseo in NY is the site of one of larger US events for outdoor flying scale, all free flight. Planes get lost in the cornfields all the time when they get caught in thermals and glide off into the sunset. I'm talking beautiful scale single and multi-engine rubber powered models.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 8:03 AM

Our local hobby shop has a stack of Guillow's kits. In the same boxes no less than I built them back in the '80s! 

I'm tempted to buy one but I don't have the patience I used to as a kid! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:12 AM
You are right its silkspan for the life of me I couldn’t recall the name.
 
Dope was indeed very strong. I know my father eventually moved to mixing water and white glue in place of dope in his last few builds due to dope becoming harder to find. He got it to work fine his builds but I didn’t have any success with the P-51 I attempted.
 
Speaking of paints I’m not sure what paints he used during his youth. But the aircraft I remember him building he mainly used paint from the hardware store that he brushed on. Whatever it was they turned out beautifully, The B-29 he did with aluminum top and black belly didn’t have one brush stroke. Later on he switched to using Krylon spray paints and those turned out pretty good.  
  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, February 10, 2020 8:08 AM

Hi GreySnake;

       I believe the paper covering was called " Silkspan" It was as fine as silk and as transparent. But after installation spritz with water and wait 24 hours and Viola! Tight as a drum. The Dope softened it a bit but it again gained that Hard as nails surface. Well hard as a drumhead anyway.

      The " Hot Fuel Proof Dope " was some smelly stuff alright. I painted one of mine with Mom's paints, The stuff seemed like it was NEVER gonna dry. Turns out it was Artist's oils!

  • Member since
    February 2011
Posted by GreySnake on Monday, February 10, 2020 7:59 AM

Tanker-Builder

 For wood you had Comet,Strombecker and Bluejacket and a few I cannot remember just now. Oh, and for paint you had Comet Hot Fuel proof Dope and let's see Testors and Pactra, Think about it and see what you can add. 

 

That reminds me of the Guillows models my father built out of balsa and the paper covering I can’t for the life remember the name for. My mother would always chase my father out of the house when he started using the dope to harden the covering, that stuff was very strong smelling. I tried my hand at building the smaller P-51 offered by Guillows I think it was 1/32 and I just did not have the skill set or patience. Maybe now that I’m older things would be different.
 
I have fond memories of looking up at my bedroom ceiling and seeing the 1/32 PBY, B-29, B-17 and P-47 my father built. It’s a shame it seems like that section of the hobby is more or less dying out.  
  • Member since
    September 2004
  • From: Denver
Posted by tankboy51 on Friday, February 7, 2020 10:06 AM

Yes, I heard of these 30 or so years ago at an IPMS meeting.  I saw few on display later.  Very cool.

  • Member since
    December 2019
  • From: Florida, USA
Posted by Niko on Friday, February 7, 2020 9:36 AM

I am only a teenager and I have not been around for the earlier days of modeling but I do feel that the market has indeed became saturated, especially with products that promise to take your models to the next level.

I find it extremely intersting though that people for thousands of years have been making models out of available materials. IMO, this distinguishes the master from the novice. It takes a lot more skill to carve out parts from a bone then to just cut em' out of a sprue. If they were able to make ships out of chicken bones and other items, we could as well. It just takes time and practice.

"The farther back you look, the farther forward you are likely to see." - Winston Churchill

IN PRODUCTION:

Trumpeter KV-2 1940 1/72

Tamiya Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind 1/48

 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
As The years go By
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, February 7, 2020 8:50 AM

Ahem;

    Is anyone listening? How about reading? Well, here goes. There was a Museum in my youth that had a display that totally floored me. Of Course it was model ships! Mostly sailing vessels. What floored me is what they were made of.

    According to the information Plaque they had been made either by carving or plank on frame out of Bone by Prisoners in French and other prisons over the years. Can you imagine making a ship out of leftover chicken Bones? I can't.

   Then I saw another display years later of a double action, Compound engine from a Liberty ship. Geez! Whatta pile of iron and steel!  Now this is where it gets interesting. The same type of engine was also on display and still is at the Smithsonian, I think. Took up a whole two floors resulting in machinery in a hole about 40 foot square!

       Just think when that was installed they never heard of balsa or plastic models of any kind. Of course you had stick and tissue airplanes. They have been around since DaVinci's time! Model ships and Siege towers? Who knows?

     Imagine you are back in the day and you saw the first iteration of a Viking Longship. Would you try to duplicate it in miniature? Someone obviously did. They did this stuff back in old Pharoah Tutmoses time too. I don't think they called it modeling then though. Painting a model back then? How much do you know about Linseed oil and Pigments from natural earth powders?

      See! We modern Modelers have it easy. Shoot, Resin, Plastic P.E and More paint than you can shake a stick at. Airbrushes? The cat's Meow! So when we think of a Comet or Strombecker kit we think they are old? Why? When's the last time you picked up an old Boy's Life Magazine and saw an ad within for a COX 049. powered Flying Model Control line Aircraft?

      Did you know that at that time there were controls for Model Sailing craft that used basic timing gear for maneuvering? Yeah, Clock work type stuff! When's the last time you picked up an old issue of any model mag and did not see Tamiya ,Hasegawa, Gunze or others .? Just Revell,and Monogram. For wood you had Comet,Strombecker and Bluejacket and a few I cannot remember just now. Oh, and for paint you had Comet Hot Fuel proof Dope and let's see Testors and Pactra, Think about it and see what you can add. Bye T.B.     Here's an additional thought. How many of you remember Casein Glue?

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