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Age of model kits
Posted by Bob D on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:04 PM

Is there a way to know if a kit is new or old design?

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:07 PM

Scalemates.com has a pretty comprehensive data base of kits. There are some goofs in there, but for the most part it’s pretty reliable.

 

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:59 PM

Ditto

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:27 PM

Google is your friend, as are the numerous online modeling websites.

Let me explain. Just about any kit out there has already been reviewed by a website or magazine. Some modelers get advanced test shots mailed to them to determine any issues with the model kit or instructions. These are often the dreaded "rivet counters" who serve a very useful niche in our hobby. Many other modelers get free kits mailed to them in order to do online reviews of the model kits or items.

So before most modelers can even get their hands on a specific model kit, there are many that have had the kits, gone over them with a fine toothed comb and posted their reviews online. Then those guys often belong to model clubs. They bring those kits into the club meetings so other members will see the kit "in the flesh" and often post short opinions on the kit; the "looks good with some certain details" type comments, etc.

One of the first things many reviewers will post is that it is a new tooled kit or a repop of an older kit or even an older kit along with some retooled or new parts. Tamiya often did this with their older Cold War armor kits. They added some new parts or retooled older sprues to bring them up to Gulf War standards. Other times they will retool to back date Cold War kits into Vietnam era kits (like the old M151A2 into a Nam era M151A1).

New kits of popular subjects also create a lot of "buzz" on the internet. So if company "A" announces a new tooled subject, everyone is talking about it. Company "B" then releases their 30 year old kit of the same subject in the hopes that they can siphon off some of the sales from unwary buyers. They think, "well, I've never heard of company A, but I know company B makes awesome kits so I'll buy theirs."

Then they realize they just bought company B's 30 year old kit at full price when you can find it in the clearance bin for $10 or at swap meets for $5. Tamiya is often critiqued for doing this.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:28 PM

stikpusher

Scalemates.com has a pretty comprehensive data base of kits. There are some goofs in there, but for the most part it’s pretty reliable.

 

It's basically wikipedia for model kits, and like wiki, you can suggest edits to correct inaccurate or flat out wrong information. I've done it several times.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 1:41 PM

One quick check is the copyright date on the instructions.  While repops sometimes use the same instructions, it at least shows when the original designed.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:43 PM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
stikpusher

Scalemates.com has a pretty comprehensive data base of kits. There are some goofs in there, but for the most part it’s pretty reliable.

 

 

 

It's basically wikipedia for model kits, and like wiki, you can suggest edits to correct inaccurate or flat out wrong information. I've done it several times.

 

Yup, I’ve done that as well. Not to mention, adding stuff such as decal sheets and other AM stuff that came out before the site was around. 

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:19 AM

Fortunately, modelers tend to be a smaller population and update Scale Mates to help other modelers, whereas wiki can be updated by anyone, and often is edited by those who think it's funny.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:21 AM

Rob Gronovius

 whereas wiki can be updated by anyone, and often is edited by those who think it's funny.

 

or who have some sort of ax to grind....

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Motley on Thursday, March 19, 2020 3:23 PM

Thanks Rob this is really helpfull info on all these kits. I'm a bit of a noob to all of this. I will start using scalemates.com.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:31 PM

Yep, Scalemates.com is really good. I am working on an older Tamyia kit. Each parts fret is dated. Some frets are from the 1970's.

Youe comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Bob D on Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:30 PM

Thanks guys. Scalemates sounds like the one.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, March 20, 2020 1:08 AM

Bob D

Thanks guys. Scalemates sounds like the one.

 

One of the benefits to Scale Mates is that you can use it to manage your "stash" or collection of model kits. Some of us have hundreds of unbuilt model kits and we often buy duplicates not knowing we already own it.

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