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Old Civilian Stuff- From Boats (Yachts) to Freighters and Liners

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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Old Civilian Stuff- From Boats (Yachts) to Freighters and Liners
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, October 19, 2020 3:46 PM

This is for the Civilian ship Lover;

       Why is it when we get a ship model, like the Titanic, they produce the daylights out of it ? BUT, do they give us the lesser known sisters or compatriots in the field Nope!

       I missed out on the Lusitania model put out some years back, I think By Airfix. Now that said. There's others that have evaded the radar or were put out in scales that don't interest me. Liners in 1/1200? That's okay for room to put them. But how much building and detail is involved? No fun here!

      There have been so many fascinating ships. The Civilian world is full of them .SHU ( Ship Handling Units, Modern Tugs( Voighth-Schneider drives and Azipod equipped types.) LNG tankers, Inland transport ships. Coastal freighters and Passenger vessels. Now I know, everyone is going to hop on here and say there's no interest! Why? Because to make it brutal they don't give us much to choose from!

      Now then too, there's Civilian Pleasure craft. Sure REVELL tried with that modern "POD' ( That's what I call Fibreglas Super yachts, Because to me that's what they look like!) I am talking about yachts like the Wheeler Cruiser45" ,The Chris Craft Connie and Roamers.The Huckins and Burger mega yachts of the forties and fifties. The Seqoiua( The presidents yacht?) Even Queen Elizabeth's Yacht- Britannia! Lindberg did a nice Charter type Fishing Boat.That was an odball though.

       When they came out with it it was rare anyway. But there was a quirk. If any of you have been lucky to acquire this model or even look at it. Look carefully. there is Killer detail on the inside of the hull! Details that should be sharp on the outside only! OOPS! I think it was possibly Blow Molded and they got the molds backwards. Leastwise that's what a friend who ran a plastic company told me!

       YES, It's a limited market, I know that. BUT not everyone can afford say a 1/350 Normandie. The Vessels are to numerous to mention. Yes, Lindberg put out some outboard day boats. Lousy molding and parts fit would've killed most I am sure. Even Airfix's multi-piece hulls fit better, even after twenty years in someone's hot attic.

     So now you know why the old Tanker-Builder builds different types of tankers. One, I spent bridge time on three different types and the fact that no one can question their accuracy like they do Warship models of any type!  I just feel that the Ship Modeler has been shortchanged by the world of Hobby Manufacturers. Sure, to end this thay have a Half- #%%$@ model of the American President liner-Seems to be two sizes? And a few others not worthy of mention. Most modern Cruise ships don't get included. Why? Well They are Floating Hotels on powered Barges in my opinion. In my engineering Opinion they don't qualify as Ships!

       Okay, I have finished the rant: Tis a shame there isn't much of the above subjects though. Not everyone wants to build sailing ships or civilian ( what there is) of wood that costs and arm and a leg and are not for the neophyte modeler anyway! Just a parting note. How of you in my age bracket remember the miracle of New York. The beautiful Andrea Doria gets Run into by the Cargo/Liner Stockholm. Maritime history right close to home. A little girl was found alive in the wreckage from the Doria on the Stockholm's foredeck. No Models of this historic pair? They have come out in Paper Many, Many years later in  1/200 scale with detail up sets too. Hmmm Lest we Forget, Is Civilian Maritime history a footnote in many countries history ????-Too Bad!

      I am sorry, I just thought of something. There were a series of people ferries operating on the Black Sea. No, very few folks here have ever seen them. Hydro-Foil craft that would, Looks wise, knock your socks off! Modern Glass cabins full of aerodynamic curves and  lots of glass. Modern looking? You Bet!! I found them on Pinterest. Sadly the fleet is now defunct! Interestingly beautiful for their time period though. Could've been a neat model too!

   

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:13 AM

Market, market, market.  That is why most of my scratchbuilt models are civil ships and boats.  Love it when a kit of one comes out (That Colombo Express, 1:700 container ship was a beaut- Revell?-, with nice PE aftermarket available).  And, of course tugs are a popular subject.  But I realize the market is slim, so I am resigned to scratchbuilding most of my civil ships.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:49 AM

Hi Don;

       Yeah, that's me. I do many times buy a paper(Or Card ) model and use it for patterns of civilian vessels. They have so many. For instance, The 1/200 Andrea Doria and the Stockholm are just begging me to do them in plastic! Plus an added benefit-I have a scad of 1/200 P.E. to work with. I bought some models from an individual and he said there was P.E. in there he didn't want. Imagine to my surprise when I opened the package and twelve frets of rails and ladders and other neat stuff fell out. Enough for at least four or five ships!

      One thing most folks don't know. If you buy a Card Model ship, the laser cut detail set is just that. Heavier laser cut details out of sturdier cardstock! That's all it is. The Laser cut material requires the same attention to care and gentle handling as the regular Paper parts! At least they are in the right colors!

         Oh, I have admired the Colombo Express from afar. The scale is to small for my shaky hands! I might drop to 1/400 but even that is a challenge.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, October 21, 2020 2:33 PM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Don;

       Yeah, that's me. I do many times buy a paper(Or Card ) model and use it for patterns of civilian vessels. They have so many. For instance, The 1/200 Andrea Doria and the Stockholm are just begging me to do them in plastic! Plus an added benefit-I have a scad of 1/200 P.E. to work with. I bought some models from an individual and he said there was P.E. in there he didn't want. Imagine to my surprise when I opened the package and twelve frets of rails and ladders and other neat stuff fell out. Enough for at least four or five ships!

      One thing most folks don't know. If you buy a Card Model ship, the laser cut detail set is just that. Heavier laser cut details out of sturdier cardstock! That's all it is. The Laser cut material requires the same attention to care and gentle handling as the regular Paper parts! At least they are in the right colors!

         Oh, I have admired the Colombo Express from afar. The scale is to small for my shaky hands! I might drop to 1/400 but even that is a challenge.

 

I bought a paper kit of a Viking ship.  Haven't built it yet, but the local club member who brought it to our attention did- it is a beautiful kit.

As far as the CE, that is a big ship, so even at 1:700 it is not tiny.  If you build it without the PE it is not that difficult.  Biggest job is making all the containers.  You could build it with as many containers as you want- just stop  when you are tired of making them :-)

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:49 AM

Hi Don;

     Yeah, those containers. On my paper model of the Conti Belgica( Contimar Lines) you get a fair deck cargo. Now you can add to it. Imagine, this 1/250 blue beauty with a full container load. That's Sixty five extras forward and Forty aft!

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