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Summer Doldrums on the forum this year

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Summer Doldrums on the forum this year
Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 12:02 PM

Seems like the forum is not very active this summer.Many threads have few to no responses which is not really true in the fall and winter.

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Posted by cwalker3 on Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:25 PM

I think it slows down every summer as people get outside and enjoy the weather, chores, vacations, etc. But I've never seen the site this slow.

Cary

 


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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:29 PM

Yes it is quite noticeable!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:34 PM

Unfortunately,it's not just the summer Eugene Crying

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:38 PM

Bummer!

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Posted by wpwar11 on Thursday, July 6, 2023 3:05 PM

My interest here isn't what it used to be.  I used to get several replies if I ask a question or post something.  Now not much at all.  

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:17 PM

True.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:52 PM

A lot of forum movement appears on Facebook. You can direct post photos there, get hundreds of comments or likes in a few days and see countless other modelers' works.

Here, you still need to upload a photo, link it to the forum and hope folks see it and respond to it.

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 5:12 PM

Might have to join FSM on Facebook 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, July 6, 2023 9:24 PM

I will NEVER join Facebook,Instagram,TikTok or the like,so I guess I'm out of luck here,but it's okay,I'm good.

fox
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Posted by fox on Thursday, July 6, 2023 9:59 PM

I'll second what Tojo said above!

Stay Safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 6, 2023 10:24 PM

I just haven't been in much of a modeling mood period. Haven't posted much here, on the other modeling sites, or built much. 

Dunno why, just seems the 'blahs'.... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Thursday, July 6, 2023 10:35 PM

Same here ,don't do too much model making in the  summer!

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Friday, July 7, 2023 6:51 AM

Tojo72
I will NEVER join Facebook,Instagram,TikTok or the like,so I guess I'm out of luck here,but it's okay,I'm good.

Ditto

No Facebook or any of those others for me either.  There are enough on-line security risks to deal with.  I sure don't need to be voluntarily walking into one.  Participation in this and a couple of other forums is about as "social" as my "social media" gets

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by armornut on Friday, July 7, 2023 7:19 AM

3rd Tojo and EC, Facebook is a cesspool, tiktok from what I've seen isn't a model friendly place...unless you're doing a stupid human trick, and I don't have time, energy, nor giveahoots to start a YouTube channel.

      Things may be slow here and a few other places hiwever I believe things will pick up. The stuff I have seen has been awesome, someone will be up to the challenge to best it.

we're modelers it's what we do

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Posted by castelnuovo on Friday, July 7, 2023 7:46 AM

I noticed that too, kind of summer hybernation. But generally the forum is very inactive, hardly anybody on group builds.

As for me, well....been in Dubrovnik for 3 weeks now so builfing is on hold.

But definetly no FB, TicToc or the like. Just not interested in that kind of exposure. But I must admit that I was lookin at other forums, just none of them to my liking

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, July 7, 2023 11:14 AM

castelnuovo

I noticed that too, kind of summer hybernation. But generally the forum is very inactive, hardly anybody on group builds.

Certain forums get more movement than others. I think armor is more active than any other modeling genre here at FSM.

Our sci-fi modeling forum gets some movement, but the posts here are what I consider "drive by" postings. "Drive bys" are when I notice similar posts across various websites that are virtually identical. It's like entering the same kit in multiple shows. No issues with that.

I'll see a build up of a sci-fi kit on Facebook (sometimes multiple pages), then here and perhaps another site or two that are virtually identical so I know it's the same person showing their build across multiple sites. If I comment on one site, I won't bother to comment at other ones. Usually comments go ignored until the next time the Drive Byer swings around.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, July 7, 2023 11:54 AM

Facebook is easy enough to use, to post about a build.  But there are definite drawbacks, besides the ones people mentioned.

It is really designed for short attention spans.  You can post, or see a post and reply, and in a short time, that post is gone, like "tears, in rain", or "like a fart in the wind", to use 2 great movie lines. It is difficult to go back and find things, the more time passes. It's not very conducive to the kind of in-depth discussion you can find on a forum.

It gets even worse as people gradually move to other platforms like Instagram. Less and less text, more and more images, and just click Like or something else, and move on.

Besides that, it's not a very user-friendly platform, with the constant changes its developers make to functionality.  And then yes, all of the other crap that others have mentioned.

So, it's a real dilemma.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, July 7, 2023 12:47 PM

Sounds a lot like my pet peeve,"The Master Modeler" they get huge build blogs which they update in detail,which is fine,but its their only posts, no comments on anybody else's work or advice,just their updates that they feel we must be breathlessly awaiting.

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Friday, July 7, 2023 12:53 PM

Valid observation!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, July 7, 2023 1:58 PM

Tojo72

Sounds a lot like my pet peeve,"The Master Modeler" they get huge build blogs which they update in detail,which is fine,but its their only posts, no comments on anybody else's work or advice,just their updates that they feel we must be breathlessly awaiting.

Yes, there's no discussion or back and forth. They don't answer the "how'd you do this" type questions. They don't check out your posts or other people's posts and add anything to the bulk of the forum beyond the pictures of their work.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 7, 2023 7:03 PM

Tojo72

Sounds a lot like my pet peeve,"The Master Modeler" they get huge build blogs which they update in detail,which is fine,but its their only posts, no comments on anybody else's work or advice,just their updates that they feel we must be breathlessly awaiting.

 

Yeah, nothing personal against people who do that but I don't generally comment on people's threads that just post their stuff and ignore everyone else. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:53 PM

Tojo72

Sounds a lot like my pet peeve,"The Master Modeler" they get huge build blogs which they update in detail,which is fine,but its their only posts, no comments on anybody else's work or advice,just their updates that they feel we must be breathlessly awaiting.

 

Yeah, I've stopped commenting or even looking in on those guys threads. If they don't have the time to at least acknowledge a comment, respond to a question or critique, or comment on other folks work, I return that favor.

 

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Posted by ThanosForever on Sunday, July 9, 2023 9:36 PM

Most forums like this have the same issue, given that they're all a 00's method of communication that has long since been superceded by other forms of social media. Forums just aren't as popular as they used to be, not since Facebook came along. It takes a dedicated group (like the good people in FSM's editorial and IT offices) to maintain this type of platform these days. The same problem exists for anyone running their own blog. Those creators are lucky if they get any views & viewers at all, which makes it kind of surprising they're even bothering with a blog at all given that a Facebook page pretty much provides them with every feature they'll ever need plus gives them all the feedback opportunites imaginable. 

Blogs also come with their own toxicity that typically run the gamut from maddening to hilarious, with the bizarreness coming directly from the creator/owner themselves. There was this one guy in China way back in the 00's and early 10's who used to do the shill work for Dragon Models, calling himself "Blogger Hiroshi". The guys on the Missing Lynx forum absolutely detested him because he went out of his way to ferociously tear down every other company even more than he was boosting the Dragon products. To make it even weirder he wrote exactly like how a villain from a 1980's Hong Kong kung-fu movie would talk. Nothing but mean-spirited emoji-saturated commentary that was usually nonsense like "You built a kit from (e.g.) Two Star (Tamiya)?!?!?!?!? HAH HAH HAH, you poor deluded fool who threw away your valuable money on trash, you should have gone with DRAGON'S greatly superior FIVE STAR product! HAH HAH HAH!!!!!!". Gotta give the clown some credit for the extra effort, because as obnoxious as he truly was he really did earn the money that Dragon was paying him to be part of their promotional team. 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, July 10, 2023 10:59 AM

I forgot about that shill Blogger Hiroshi of the "Mighty Dragon Fan Club". He posted using Pidgin English and had nicknames for the various modeling companies, often based off of the company logo or name. Tamiya was "Two Star", Tristar was "Three Star", Trumpeter was "Bugler", Bronco was "Pony".

Because of this, many modelers called Dragon "Lizard".

Generally speaking, forums fell out of favor because our hobby is a visual one. Most forums required modelers to take photos, upload the photos to a hosting site, figure out how to embed the picture into your forum post (so it appears as a photo and not as a link to click), and then once photos were removed to make room for newer photos, the original thread became useless for viewing.

Just click on our testing forum and you'll see folks trying to figure out the whole picture in post issue.

Then there was the anonymity thing. Many modelers were very mean spirited when posting in forums, but once you saw their kits online and then saw their kits in person at a show, it was easy to call them out. You knew who they were.

Those types of guys took their bat and ball and went home because they couldn't be their mean self on forums. I had my own detractor here and once I identified him by his actual name, he virtually went invisible here. While I don't think we ever interacted in real life, I know we went to the same shows a couple of times.

Going way back into the 1990s when AOL had a model making chat room (I met Al Lefleche there first), most of the "serious" modelers were on the old USENET (User's Network) newsgroup rec.models.scale (Recreation: Models, Scale).

I can remember if you missed a day of discussion, it could take hours to catch up.

To some folks on that newsgroup, only true modelers built kits from scratch. Anyone else was a "kit assembler".

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Monday, July 10, 2023 11:12 AM

What I  like about the forums I frequent is that they do not tolerate nasty posts .Keeps the fool trolls out!

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Posted by Glamdring on Monday, July 10, 2023 9:14 PM

Guity as charged, I just haven't been online much anymore, and I have really been struggling moving models past the finish line this year.  My progress has been so slow, putting WIP posts up isn't even worth the effort for the amount of progress I have in an entire week!

Robert 

"I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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Posted by Eugene Rowe on Monday, July 10, 2023 9:22 PM

Busy Summer season , perfectly understandable 

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:55 AM

I haven't been building for about two years now. Too many things going on. I try to hang out here but the pop-ups are still giving me trouble.  

 

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Posted by gomeral on Tuesday, July 11, 2023 10:37 AM

Pretty much echoing others, but chiming in to show I'm present!

I will not do FB or any other social media; I cannot abide by the deep privacy intrusion (as I tell my kids, if you don't pay to use it, you're the product) and the anonymity seems to always lead to trolls and other behaviors you (generally) wouldn't see in face-to-face situations.

I've been a lurker on this forum for a while, usually because I only get time to visit once and a while and feel like I miss out on a lot of the conversations as they happen - always hate to be the guy that posts into a thread weeks or months after the last comment.  But I've been trying to do better lately, even if I don't have photos to post, etc.  It's more about the community, for me.  :)

 

 

daniel

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